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Re: Courtesy Phone Equipment
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doughty, Marc)
Thu Mar 10 10:08:37 2011
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Greetings,
If the phones are to be used for emergencies only, could they be
mounted in the same kind of recessed glass boxes that fire extinguishers
are? Seems like it would keep the phone safe, and there would be room for a
portable defib, a first-aid kit, and maybe a few flashlights (or iodine
pills, if you're downwind from a nuclear facility). Bonus, since you might
be able to get help from Public Safety or Construction budgets, instead of
IT.
- Marc Doughty
- Apple and Microsoft Certified
- Open-Source Enlightened
- Marc_Doughty@brown.edu
"POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of
principles." - Ambrose Bierce
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Willem Van Dam <wvandam@fau.edu> wrote:
> Hi Joel,
>
>
>
> We have one or two courtesy phones per building. These phones are POTS
> lines (not VOIP) so that they work even if a hurricane hits (this is Sout=
h
> Florida=85.).
>
>
>
> The phones we use are the cheap analog phones that are about $10.
>
> Hardened phones costs about $300 and they can be destroyed also. So for t=
he
> price of one hardened phone you can have 30 cheap phones.
>
> So for about 20 phones the investment for hardened phones would have been
> $6000. That is a whole lot of vandalism of $10 phones=85. We replace only=
1 or
> 2 phones per semester.
>
>
>
> Willem van Dam
>
> Coor. Computer Sys. Control.
>
> Department of Housing and Residential Life.
>
> Florida Atlantic University.
>
> Building 46, Room 238
>
> 1900 Dade Ave.
>
> Boca Raton, FL 33431
>
> (561) 297-0109
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Joe=
l
> Kraft
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:41 AM
> *To:* RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> *Subject:* Courtesy Phone Equipment
>
>
>
> We've been working on reducing the number of telephone lines offered in
> student rooms for the past couple of years, but are finally to the point
> where we get to start phasing them out completely. This will be a
> multi-year process as the income from our lines is linked into the financ=
ing
> plan for our fancy VoIP system.
>
>
> It's been decided that there will be some courtesy phones in each buildin=
g
> so there is something available in an emergency. Now we need to come up
> with the best solution to install. I am hoping that some folks may be ab=
le
> to share what they are doing.
>
> Here are some of our options:
>
>
> - Go back to the good old days of cheap analog phones on the wall that
> we can easily replace if they get damaged.
> - Install VoIP phones similar to what we have in offices.
> - Use some sort of hardened phone with emergency button, similar to
> what we have outside front doors.
> - Something else?
>
> Also, how many of these do you think is "enough"? One per building? One
> per lounge? Per floor?
>
> Thanks!
>
> *Joel D Kraft** | **Director, Student Affairs IT Group*
>
> Case Western Reserve University Division of Student Affairs
>
> 11900 Carlton Rd #120 | Cleveland, OH 44106-2647
>
> office 216.368.1959 | fax 216.368.1960 | sasupport@case.edu
>
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Greetings,<br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If the phones are to be used for emergencies =
only, could they be mounted in the same kind of recessed glass boxes that f=
ire extinguishers are? Seems like it would keep the phone safe, and there w=
ould be room for a portable defib, a first-aid kit, and maybe a few flashli=
ghts (or iodine pills, if you're downwind from a nuclear facility). Bon=
us, since you might be able to get help from Public Safety or Construction =
budgets, instead of IT.<br clear=3D"all">
<br>- Marc Doughty<br>=A0 - Apple and Microsoft Certified<br>=A0 - Open-Sou=
rce Enlightened<br>- <a href=3D"mailto:Marc_Doughty@brown.edu">Marc_Doughty=
@brown.edu</a><br><br>"POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading=
as a contest of principles." - Ambrose Bierce<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Willem V=
an Dam <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:wvandam@fau.edu">wvandam@fau=
.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi Joel,</span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We have one or two courtesy =
phones per building. These phones are POTS lines (not VOIP) so that they wo=
rk even if a hurricane hits (this is South Florida=85.).</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The phones we use a=
re the cheap analog phones that are about $10. </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hardened phones costs about =
$300 and they can be destroyed also. So for the price of one hardened phone=
you can have 30 cheap phones.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">So for about 20 phones the investment f=
or hardened phones would have been $6000. That is a whole lot of vandalism =
of $10 phones=85. We replace only 1 or 2 phones per semester.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F49=
7D">Willem van Dam</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Coor. Computer Sys. Control.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Depar=
tment of Housing and Residential Life.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Florida Atlantic University.</s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Build=
ing 46, Room 238</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;color:#1F497D">1900 Dade Ave.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Boca Raton, FL 33431</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">(561)=
297-0109</span></p><div class=3D"im"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">From:</=
span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"> Resnet Forum [mailto:<a href=3D"=
mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU=
</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Kraft<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mai=
lto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a=
><br><b>Subject:</b> Courtesy Phone Equipment</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">
=A0</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">We've been working on reducing the =
number of telephone lines offered in student rooms for the past couple of y=
ears, but are finally to the point where we get to start phasing them out c=
ompletely.=A0 This will be a multi-year process as the income from our line=
s is linked into the financing plan for our fancy VoIP system.</p>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>It's been decided that there =
will be some courtesy phones in each building so there is something availab=
le in an emergency.=A0 Now we need to come up with the best solution to ins=
tall.=A0 I am hoping that some folks may be able to share what they are doi=
ng.<br>
<br>Here are some of our options:</div></div><p></p><div><div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"h5"><ul type=3D"disc"><li class=3D"MsoNormal">Go back to the good ol=
d days of cheap analog phones on the wall that we can easily replace if the=
y get damaged.</li>
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">Install VoIP phones similar to what we have in offi=
ces.</li><li class=3D"MsoNormal">Use some sort of hardened phone with emerg=
ency button, similar to what we have outside front doors.</li><li class=3D"=
MsoNormal">
Something else?</li></ul><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0=
pt">Also, how many of these do you think is "enough"?=A0 One per =
building? One per lounge? Per floor?<br><br>Thanks!</p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D">Joel D Kraft</span></b>=
<b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;color:gray"> | </span></b><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:9.0pt;color:#C0504D">Director, Student Affairs IT Group</span=
></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;color:gray">Case West=
ern Reserve University Division of Student Affairs</span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;color:gray">11900 Carlton Rd #120 |=
Cleveland, OH 44106-2647</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;color:gray">office 21=
6.368.1959 | fax 216.368.1960 | </span><a href=3D"mailto:sasupport@case.edu=
" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt">sasupport@case.edu</spa=
n></a></p>
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