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Re: Courtesy Phone Equipment
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Willem Van Dam)
Wed Mar 9 16:18:33 2011
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Hi Joel,
We have one or two courtesy phones per building. These phones are POTS line=
s (not VOIP) so that they work even if a hurricane hits (this is South Flor=
ida....).
The phones we use are the cheap analog phones that are about $10.
Hardened phones costs about $300 and they can be destroyed also. So for the=
price of one hardened phone you can have 30 cheap phones.
So for about 20 phones the investment for hardened phones would have been $=
6000. That is a whole lot of vandalism of $10 phones.... We replace only 1 =
or 2 phones per semester.
Willem van Dam
Coor. Computer Sys. Control.
Department of Housing and Residential Life.
Florida Atlantic University.
Building 46, Room 238
1900 Dade Ave.
Boca Raton, FL 33431
(561) 297-0109
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel Kraf=
t
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:41 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Courtesy Phone Equipment
We've been working on reducing the number of telephone lines offered in stu=
dent rooms for the past couple of years, but are finally to the point where=
we get to start phasing them out completely. This will be a multi-year pr=
ocess as the income from our lines is linked into the financing plan for ou=
r fancy VoIP system.
It's been decided that there will be some courtesy phones in each building =
so there is something available in an emergency. Now we need to come up wi=
th the best solution to install. I am hoping that some folks may be able t=
o share what they are doing.
Here are some of our options:
* Go back to the good old days of cheap analog phones on the wall that =
we can easily replace if they get damaged.
* Install VoIP phones similar to what we have in offices.
* Use some sort of hardened phone with emergency button, similar to wha=
t we have outside front doors.
* Something else?
Also, how many of these do you think is "enough"? One per building? One pe=
r lounge? Per floor?
Thanks!
Joel D Kraft | Director, Student Affairs IT Group
Case Western Reserve University Division of Student Affairs
11900 Carlton Rd #120 | Cleveland, OH 44106-2647
office 216.368.1959 | fax 216.368.1960 | sasupport@case.edu<mailto:sasuppor=
t@case.edu>
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Joel,<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri=
","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have one or two courtesy phones per buildi=
ng. These phones are POTS lines (not VOIP) so that they work even if a hurr=
icane hits (this is South Florida….).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>The phones we use are the cheap analog phones that are about $10. <o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hardened phones costs about $300 =
and they can be destroyed also. So for the price of one hardened phone you =
can have 30 cheap phones.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=
So for about 20 phones the investment for hardened phones would have been $=
6000. That is a whole lot of vandalism of $10 phones…. We replace onl=
y 1 or 2 phones per semester.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F49=
7D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Willem van Dam<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Coor. Computer Sys. Contro=
l.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Department of Housing a=
nd Residential Life.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Flor=
ida Atlantic University.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>B=
uilding 46, Room 238<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1900=
Dade Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Boca Raton, FL =
33431<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(561) 297-0109<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F=
497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resnet Forum [ma=
ilto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Kraft<br><b>Sent:</=
b> Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU=
<br><b>Subject:</b> Courtesy Phone Equipment<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We've been working o=
n reducing the number of telephone lines offered in student rooms for the p=
ast couple of years, but are finally to the point where we get to start pha=
sing them out completely. This will be a multi-year process as the in=
come from our lines is linked into the financing plan for our fancy VoIP sy=
stem.<br><br>It's been decided that there will be some courtesy phones in e=
ach building so there is something available in an emergency. Now we =
need to come up with the best solution to install. I am hoping that s=
ome folks may be able to share what they are doing.<br><br>Here are some of=
our options:<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=3Ddisc><li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'=
>Go back to the good old days of cheap analog phones on the wall that we ca=
n easily replace if they get damaged.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 lev=
el1 lfo1'>Install VoIP phones similar to what we have in offices.<o:p></o:p=
></li><li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bot=
tom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Use some sort of hardened phone with =
emergency button, similar to what we have outside front doors.<o:p></o:p></=
li><li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Something else?<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Also, how many of these do =
you think is "enough"? One per building? One per lounge? Pe=
r floor?<br><br>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-mar=
gin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style=3D'font-size:9.=
0pt;color:#1F497D'>Joel D Kraft</span></b><b><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt=
;color:gray'> | </span></b><b><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;color:#C0504D'=
>Director, Student Affairs IT Group</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>Case Western Reserve University Divisio=
n of Student Affairs</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso=
-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:9=
.0pt;color:gray'>11900 Carlton Rd #120 | Cleveland, OH 44106-2647</span><o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>office 216.36=
8.1959 | fax 216.368.1960 | </span><a href=3D"mailto:sasupport@case.edu"><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>sasupport@case.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><=
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