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Re: how do you handle streaming video?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter P Morrissey)
Wed Feb 2 10:01:56 2011
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We have seen a steady increase in bandwidth needs as well. We don't see tha=
t slowing down.
Cable Modem providers and FiOS can provide 10-50mbps and with DOCSIS 3.0, c=
able providers will be able to easily provide 100 mbps or more when they wa=
nt to. FiOS being fiber based could go even higher. You can buy a TV or Blu=
e Ray player today that plugs into the Internet and can stream Netflix or A=
mazon video in HD quality on a big screen.
There is also Roku, GoogleTV, AppleTV etc. Not to mention hulu, youtube etc=
.
We have found that at least in our area, the price of Internet bandwidth ha=
s been coming down some, the more volume you buy.
That has helped. We use packet shaping that has been fairly successful at s=
topping P2P which helps. We also have Akamai servers on campus that cache t=
he content that they service, and that has helped some too.
Pete M.
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Crowe, Sh=
eila
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:33 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: how do you handle streaming video?
Recently (this past fall), two changes were made to our bandwidth pipe.
1. We paid for an additional 100 mbps to add to the 200 mbps we were =
paying for.
2. Before this change, ResNet shared the whole commodity internet pip=
e with the rest of the campus (400 mbps); after this upgrade, we were limit=
ed to 300 mbps only.
What has changed so dramatically from last year that even our increased ban=
dwidth isn't near enough to handle the demand? Because we are hitting the 3=
00 mbps threshold every single day. Our network admins (my vendor, so to s=
peak) tell me that it is streaming video and p2p traffic. We had streaming=
video last year and p2p traffic. Unless they removed the shaping for p2p =
traffic, I can't see that that traffic should ramp up so significantly this=
year.
So what are other schools doing about this increased demand on their bandwi=
dth? Are you seeing this same, significant increase in demand? If nothing=
has changed for us from last year except for our increase in bandwidth, w=
hy does our service suck so much for our customers? Anyone?
Sheila Crowe
Montana State University ResNet
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'c=
olor:#1F497D'>We have seen a steady increase in bandwidth needs as well. We=
don’t see that slowing down.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Cable Modem providers and FiOS can provide=
10-50mbps and with DOCSIS 3.0, cable providers will be able to easily prov=
ide 100 mbps or more when they want to. FiOS being fiber based could go eve=
n higher. You can buy a TV or Blue Ray player today that plugs into the Int=
ernet and can stream Netflix or Amazon video in HD quality on a big screen.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Th=
ere is also Roku, GoogleTV, AppleTV etc. Not to mention hulu, youtube etc. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>We=
have found that at least in our area, the price of Internet bandwidth has =
been coming down some, the more volume you buy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>That has helped. We use packet=
shaping that has been fairly successful at stopping P2P which helps. We al=
so have Akamai servers on campus that cache the content that they service, =
and that has helped some too. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Pete M.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0=
in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ta=
homa","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]=
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Crowe, Sheila<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 01, 20=
11 6:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> how do=
you handle streaming video?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Recently (this past fall)=
, two changes were made to our bandwidth pipe. <o:p></o:p></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'tex=
t-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style=
=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> &=
nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>We paid for an additi=
onal 100 mbps to add to the 200 mbps we were paying for.<o:p></o:p></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2=
'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style=3D'fon=
t:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></sp=
an><![endif]>Before this change, ResNet shared the whole commodity internet=
pipe with the rest of the campus (400 mbps); after this upgrade, we were l=
imited to 300 mbps only.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>What has changed so dramatically from last year =
that even our increased bandwidth isn’t near enough to handle the dem=
and? Because we are hitting the 300 mbps threshold every single day. =
Our network admins (my vendor, so to speak) tell me that it is streaming vi=
deo and p2p traffic. We had streaming video last year and p2p traffic=
. Unless they removed the shaping for p2p traffic, I can’t see =
that that traffic should ramp up so significantly this year. <o:p></o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>So wh=
at are other schools doing about this increased demand on their bandwidth?&=
nbsp; Are you seeing this same, significant increase in demand? If no=
thing has changed for us from last year except for our increase in bandwidt=
h, why does our service suck so much for our customers? Anyone?=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al>Sheila Crowe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Montana State University=
ResNet<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>____________________________________=
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