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Re: CATV and internet bandwidth

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Crowe, Sheila)
Wed Jan 26 13:20:50 2011

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I am very interested in this topic and I think a lot of us are in the same =
place with our CATV technology...wanting to upgrade for HD services but uns=
ure if the expense is worth it for the long run.  We have seen a definite n=
oticeable increase in our bandwidth consumption at peak times and I'm think=
ing that a lot of that traffic is streaming video.  I'm not sure because we=
 don't manage our shaper.  I do know that we just upped our bandwidth by 10=
0 mbps (ResNet only) and our users have already consumed that upgrade.

What is the next big thing in TV?  Are students/users going to continue to =
watch TV via "traditional" means like CATV (probably not)?  And if not, wha=
t are we going to do to meet/mitigate the demands and effects on our bandwi=
dth?

Sheila Crowe
Montana State University ResNet


From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of James Ell=
is
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:12 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: CATV and internet bandwidth

Greetings,

I've been asked to see what other locations are doing in terms of CableTV a=
nd related internet bandwidth for students.

We currently have a head-end structure with rigid coax between buildings an=
d service from DirecTV. The equipment in place allows us to distribute an a=
nalog signal in standard definition. We are looking to upgrade our setup, a=
nd are considering several options. Does anyone still have a head-end struc=
ture? Do you get service from the internet or satellite? If by internet, th=
en how much bandwidth is this consuming? Do you offer HD services to studen=
ts? Do you distribute internally via ethernet or coax?

I assume others, like us, have seen a rise in internet offerings such as Ne=
tFlix and Hulu for student entertainment. Has this caused a noticeable incr=
ease in traffic? Does anyone shape this traffic, only allow it during certa=
in times, or is your bandwidth sufficient enough to handle the traffic?

Any comments or insights would be appreciated.

Thanks!

James Ellis

Culver-Stockton College
1 College Hill
Canton, MO  63435 ___________________________________________________ You a=
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am very=
 interested in this topic and I think a lot of us are in the same place wit=
h our CATV technology&#8230;wanting to upgrade for HD services but unsure i=
f the expense is worth it for the long run.&nbsp; We have seen a definite n=
oticeable increase in our bandwidth consumption at peak times and I&#8217;m=
 thinking that a lot of that traffic is streaming video.&nbsp; I&#8217;m no=
t sure because we don&#8217;t manage our shaper.&nbsp; I do know that we ju=
st upped our bandwidth by 100 mbps (ResNet only) and our users have already=
 consumed that upgrade.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4=
97D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What is the ne=
xt big thing in TV?&nbsp; Are students/users going to continue to watch TV =
via &#8220;traditional&#8221; means like CATV (probably not)?&nbsp; And if =
not, what are we going to do to meet/mitigate the demands and effects on ou=
r bandwidth?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sheila Crowe<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Montana State University ResNet<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p=
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soNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-seri=
f"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","s=
ans-serif"'> Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of=
 </b>James Ellis<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:12 AM<br><b=
>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> CATV and internet band=
width<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Greetings,<br>&nbsp;<br>I've been asked to see what ot=
her locations are doing in terms of CableTV and related internet bandwidth =
for students.<br>&nbsp;<br>We currently have a head-end structure with rigi=
d coax between buildings and service from DirecTV. The equipment in place a=
llows us to distribute an analog signal in standard definition. We are look=
ing to upgrade our setup, and are considering several options. Does anyone =
still have a head-end structure? Do you get service from the internet or sa=
tellite? If by internet, then how much bandwidth is this consuming? Do you =
offer HD services to students? Do you distribute internally via ethernet or=
 coax?<br>&nbsp;<br>I assume others, like us, have seen a rise in internet =
offerings such as NetFlix and Hulu for student entertainment. Has this caus=
ed a noticeable increase in traffic? Does anyone shape this traffic, only a=
llow it during certain times, or is your bandwidth sufficient enough to han=
dle the traffic?<br>&nbsp;<br>Any comments or insights would be appreciated=
.<br>&nbsp;<br>Thanks!<br>&nbsp;<br>James Ellis<br>&nbsp;<br>Culver-Stockto=
n College<br>1 College Hill<br>Canton, MO&nbsp; 63435 _____________________=
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