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PC-X servers for windows.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bellybutton)
Wed Mar 23 13:24:17 1994

To: resnet@MIT.EDU
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 13:22:28 EST
From: Bellybutton <jthunter@MIT.EDU>



Hi y'all.

The following is only a thought not a proposal but if anyone is interested
or thinks there are serious problems with this idea I would appreciate any
response.  Please, though, I don't know gratuatous flamage just because you 
don't like the idea.


Idea:
There are a number of PC-X servers on the market.  Most of these are 
X11R5 compliate and some come with there own LAN managers.  I have been
looking into the possibilty of installing a PC-X server for MS Windows
over the current resnet system on my own PC.  I have looked into a few
comercially available PC-X servers as to their cost, size, and availability.
Some of them look quite promising.  The base unit for a server is about
$380 for a signal license.  This figure is about the average for the 
educational discount versions of the X servers I have looked into.  Most
of them also offer package bulk groups that can be considerably cheaper.
Hence my coming here for interest and comment.  One of the server that I was
looking at offer a group package in the range of $1000 for 5 and $1100 for
10.  This puts the price of servers for students (thats us) around $100
bucks a person.  (There are bigger price breaks for more people.)  That is 
not that much considering that they offer the PC-X server that is fully
X11R5 compliant, a TCP/IP network manager, and the Xlib toolkits for C/C++
development of X-clients.  This means that you can develop your own X-clients
for the comfort of your own machine.  Furthermore, you can use the Windows
window manager or Motif, TWM, Openview, etc on a remote machin if you so
desire.  Furthermore, the package includes site service for a year,
and free software updates for the year period.  That is they will
update our software and documentation to reflect any new product 
releases that appear within a year of purchase.  I am not sure yet if
this includes the platform switch from Windows 3.1 to Chicago but I
would certainly look into this possiblity before purchasing.  

Basically the idea of running a PC-X server is intriging and with
enough interest from fellow students the cost could become managable.  I have
requested info and demos from two companies (free of cost and obligation).  
I would be willing to corrdinate the demoing of these products with anyone
who is interested in pursueing this possibility.

If you *must* be involved in this pursuance then feel free to email me
at jthunter@mit.edu and exude your enthusiasm into my mailbox.
If you only are midely insterested or have questions please feel free to
respond here at resnet@mit.edu (I don't have enough disk space for 
for large quantities of gratutious questions or flames).  I will do my
best to answer any questions with the limited info that I have already
gleaned and will provide more and info and demoes become available 
(ie. stuff starts showing up in the mail.)

Thanks, 

Jason.

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