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PC's in Dorms for Bernard Hecker

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bruce=Mathew%CCAdmin%SJC@dante.sai)
Tue Feb 28 10:18:09 1995

Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 08:24:48 CST
From: Bruce=Mathew%CCAdmin%SJC@dante.saintjoe.edu
To: resnet-forum@MIT.EDU
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Saint Josephs' College has about 99% PCs vs. very few Macs.  So, I suppose we 
could say we have seen most of the problems you are experiencing.

Some background:  We are running Banyan Vines on Ethernet via fiber, Coax and 
UTP.  We have about 1100 users.  175 Pcs and about 15 Macs, 8 SUNS.  We have 
about 600 dorm rooms wired with about 55 current student connections in use.  
We tried renting the cards to the students, but it was too much of a 
headache.  We now have it worked out where the students buy the cards and if 
they want to sell them back to the underclassmen they can.

Some of our tricks:  With the multiple version of DOS, we ended up building 
batch files on install disks to determine the system specs and ask the 
installer the correct questions to install the correct version of drivers for 
each version of DOS.  This made the install of all the network software much 
easier.  We use Student assistants to do all this, we haven't found very many 
generic students who can take this on by themselves.  No matter what, every 
machine is a custom install in one way or another.

Of course, I haven't even mentioned the fact that there are hundreds of 
different network cards available.  We have restricted our users to a couple 
of reliable cards and this makes our lives much easier.

We have built front end menus ourselves so that most applications are called 
from a DOS level.  To be honest, we are just scratching the surface with 
Windows.  We don't make any changes to the Students version of windows.  We 
do have a "somewhat secure" network version on the server for specific 
windows software that we made generic so the programming classes could use 
windows based software and the hackers couldn't make changes for everyone to 
see. (so far...:)   Our biggest problem so far has been the multiple version 
of video drivers we find on the PCs.  With a server installed version of 
windows to use, it doesn't recognize other video drivers and we have been 
bitten several times by this.
                                                                            
We all have experience with the changing technology, but every new machine 
that comes in is a whole new ball game.  There always seems to be something a 
little different....

I'll stop now, but if you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a 
line at brucem@saintjoe.edu.                                                  
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 Bruce Mathew                       Internet Address     
 Director Of Computer Services      (brucem@saintjoe.edu)
 Saint Joseph's College                        
 Rensselaer, IN.  USA 

	We're in uncharted territory now, making up 
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