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Re: WiFi only residence halls

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sweetser, Frank E)
Tue Mar 28 07:17:51 2017

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I personally wouldn't want to go completely wifi only, but if your vendor o=
ffers it, the faceplate model APs (like the Aruba 205H) offer a good compro=
mise. They  let you skip the cabling and closet switch ports, but still get=
 you a handful of access ports in the room.

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Subject: Re: WiFi only residence halls

We have been building predominately wifi dorms since 2013 and so far it has=
 been working our for us. The students rarely use what few data jacks we in=
stall in the lounges and common areas and when they are in use it's usually=
 for gaming. Limited gaming capability in the students rooms where there is=
 only wifi has been a minor complaint but overall, not installing jacks in =
the rooms has saved us quite a bit of money on construction costs and keeps=
 us in line with the ongoing demand for wifi access. If your confident in y=
our wifi vendor I wouldn't bother installing one jack per pillow as it seem=
s to be a trend of the past and the jacks will likely go unused.

Chris Giannini
Network Engineer
I.T.S Dept
Framingham State University
508-626-4733
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:22 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: WiFi only residence halls


As we plan for constructing a new residence hall, our budget is tightening =
faster than expected.  Apparently the construction boom in Seattle has grea=
tly increased costs since the project was budgeted.



I=92m considering specifying a WiFi only network for the new building, inst=
ead of the WiFi plus one port per pillow network that I=92d like to have.  =
We have less than 10% wired jack utilization at the moment, I expect that d=
emand to drop, and it seems that if we could provide a high performance WiF=
i network with some wired ports in gaming lounges that we could have satisf=
ied residents in the 2020s.



Is anyone running a WiFi only building?  If so, how=92s that working out?



Thanks,



Noel McHugh

Residential IT Manager

The Evergreen State College

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I personally wouldn't want to go completely wifi only, but if your vendor o=
ffers it, the faceplate model APs (like the Aruba 205H) offer a good compro=
mise. They&nbsp; let you skip the cabling and closet switch ports, but stil=
l get you a handful of access ports in
 the room.</p>
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<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Tahoma; color:#000000; font-size:1=
0pt">We have been building predominately wifi dorms since 2013 and so far i=
t has been working our for us. The students rarely use what few data jacks =
we install in the lounges and common
 areas and when they are in use it's usually for gaming. Limited gaming cap=
ability in the students rooms where there is only wifi has been a minor com=
plaint but overall, not installing jacks in the rooms has saved us quite a =
bit of money on construction costs
 and keeps us in line with the ongoing demand for wifi access. If your conf=
ident in your wifi vendor I wouldn't bother installing one jack per pillow =
as it seems to be a trend of the past and the jacks will likely go unused.&=
nbsp;<br>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">Chris Giannini<br>
Network Engineer<br>
I.T.S Dept<br>
Framingham State University<br>
508-626-4733</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 27, 2017 8:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> WiFi only residence halls<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">As we plan for constructing a new residence hall,=
 our budget is tightening faster than expected.&nbsp; Apparently the constr=
uction boom in Seattle has greatly increased costs since the project was bu=
dgeted.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">I=92m considering specifying a WiFi only network =
for the new building, instead of the WiFi plus one port per pillow network =
that I=92d like to have.&nbsp; We have less than 10% wired jack utilization=
 at the moment, I expect that demand to drop,
 and it seems that if we could provide a high performance WiFi network with=
 some wired ports in gaming lounges that we could have satisfied residents =
in the 2020s.&nbsp;
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">Is anyone running a WiFi only building?&nbsp; If =
so, how=92s that working out?</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">Thanks,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">Noel McHugh</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">Residential IT Manager</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNoSpacing">The Evergreen State College</p>
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