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Re: NetBoot/PXE network configuration in the enterprise

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
Wed Sep 14 08:16:42 2016

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Christopher,

We have been  doing PXE & NetBoot for many years here at Liberty University=
 with Cisco layer 3 switching.

On our Vlan SVI's, we generally have 3 ip helper addresses - DHCP server, P=
XE server, & NetBoot server. The DHCP server handles the IP address leases.=
 The PXE server responds with the PXE options. The NetBoot server responds =
with the NetBoot options.

The clients happily ignore what they do not need and everybody happily exis=
ts on separate vlans.

If you wish to contact me off-list I can connect you with our network archi=
tects and our routing/switching team. Since I am working primarily in wirel=
ess, I have not been heavily involved in these particular architecture desi=
gns. I have had to troubleshoot problems, though.

Best regards,

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Burkhalter, Chris [mailto:chris.burkhalter@YALE.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:30 AM
Subject: NetBoot/PXE network configuration in the enterprise


Hi all!



I've recently started to tackle the complex issue of enterprise level netwo=
rk booting and re-imaging for a large number of PC's and Macs en masse. We =
here at Yale have come to the preliminary conclusion that we'll need to con=
figure a virtual LAN that will span all our subnets and layer 2/3 networks =
in order to provide sufficient co-existence for NetBoot and PXE to exist an=
d work (along with isolated multicast). Since our clusters physically co-ex=
ist on networks with other systems we have a particularly difficult set of =
challenges in making this work.



Being that I can't be the first person to have done or attempted this I wan=
ted to reach out and hear about everyone's experiences. Furthermore, if you=
've done this successfully how was your HP/Cisco/Juniper layer 2/3 network =
equipment configured (if at all) to make this work?



Our current plan in a nutshell:



* Isolate all the systems and consolidate them in to between 4-6 subnets ca=
mpus wide

* configure I.P. helpers for the relaying of necessary DHCP/Bootp/PXE broad=
casts

* attempt to isolate routing for multicast (to avoid excessive routing traf=
fic)



Thoughts? Hoping to learn from other's experience :). We are interested in =
hearing your experiences, especially those that dealt with the configuratio=
n of the network to help us understand how others have done this. I've foun=
d good resources on Google, but none point to specific implementations and =
their challenges.



Many thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you!

Best,

Christopher M. Burkhalter - ACSP, ACMT
DSP - Public Computing Services,
Office of Medical Education

Yale University I.T.S.
203-500-3942
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">We hav=
e been&nbsp; doing PXE &amp; NetBoot for many years here at Liberty Univers=
ity with Cisco layer 3 switching.
<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">On our=
 Vlan SVI&#8217;s, we generally have 3 ip helper addresses &#8211; DHCP ser=
ver, PXE server, &amp; NetBoot server. The DHCP server handles the
 IP address leases. The PXE server responds with the PXE options. The NetBo=
ot server responds with the NetBoot options.
<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span s=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The cl=
ients happily ignore what they do not need and everybody happily exists on =
separate vlans.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">If you=
 wish to contact me off-list I can connect you with our network architects =
and our routing/switching team. Since I am working
 primarily in wireless, I have not been heavily involved in these particula=
r architecture designs. I have had to troubleshoot problems, though.<o:p></=
o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span s=
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:30 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> NetBoot/PXE network configuration in the enterprise<o:p></o=
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<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">Hi all!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">I've recently started to tackle the complex issue=
 of enterprise level network booting and re-imaging for a large number of P=
C's and Macs en masse. We here at Yale have come
 to the&nbsp;preliminary&nbsp;conclusion that we'll need to configure a vir=
tual LAN that will span all our subnets and layer 2/3 networks in order to =
provide sufficient co-existence for NetBoot and PXE to exist and work (alon=
g with isolated multicast). Since our clusters
 physically co-exist on networks with other systems we have a particularly =
difficult&nbsp;set of challenges in making this work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">Being that I can't be the first person to have do=
ne or&nbsp;attempted this I wanted to reach out and hear about everyone's e=
xperiences.&nbsp;Furthermore, if you've done this successfully
 how was your HP/Cisco/Juniper layer 2/3 network equipment&nbsp;configured&=
nbsp;(if at all) to make this work?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">Our current plan in a nutshell:<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">* Isolate all the systems and consolidate them in=
 to between 4-6 subnets campus wide<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">* configure I.P. helpers for the relaying of nece=
ssary DHCP/Bootp/PXE broadcasts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">* attempt to isolate routing for multicast (to av=
oid excessive routing traffic)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">Thoughts? Hoping to learn from other's experience=
&nbsp;:). We are interested in hearing your experiences, especially those t=
hat dealt with the configuration of the network to
 help us understand how others have done this. I've found good resources on=
 Google, but none point to specific implementations and their challenges.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">Many thanks, and looking forward to hearing from =
you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Best,<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Christopher M. Burkhalter &#8211; ACSP, ACMT<br>
DSP - Public Computing Services,<br>
Office of Medical Education<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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