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Re: Finally considering the support of Office 365 for our students
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Charles Barbour)
Thu Sep 1 09:05:21 2016
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The online version of Office is free. Full local installs and use of the
mobile apps cost $6/student/month and $8/user/month for faculty and staff.
Compare Office 365 Education Plans
<https://products.office.com/en-us/academic/compare-office-365-education-pl=
ans>
Charles Barbour | Educational Technologist
Office - 574-631-2386 | Cell - 574-485-6076
B003 Edward J DeBartolo Hall - Notre Dame IN 46556
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enough time. - Leonard Bernstein*
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) <
bosborne@liberty.edu> wrote:
> You *do* realize Microsoft offers Office 365 free for students, right?
>
> See https://products.office.com/en-us/student/office-in-education
>
> Bruce Osborne
> Wireless Engineer
> IT Network Operations - Wireless
> (434) 592-4229
>
> LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
> Training Champions for Christ since 1971
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Malsed [mailto:mike.malsed@CLAREMONTMCKENNA.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Finally considering the support of Office 365 for our studen=
ts
>
> We've always supported any Office on student computers - in the past
> couple of years we've begun paying for their Office 365, but even before
> that, we supported it because it's in line with my mission to support the=
ir
> academic computing, and since Office is the only thing that's FULLY
> compatible with Office (Work and OO are compatible, but not FULLY
> compatible - Save As, blah blah blah) we've always supported students in
> using Office.
>
> Tracking: If you do not purchase it for them, you don't need to track it.
> Track issues as you typically would. :) Where to get it: We've pointed th=
em
> toward Amazon - it tends to have better deals on there. The only three
> products we push hard are Word, Excel and PowerPoint. Others are cool,
> especially OneNote (which is free and multi-platform, and have you seen t=
he
> new math "tutorial" thing? Cool!!!) but not really necessary.
> License validation: it's now a subscription model but if you don't buy it
> for them, it's their responsibility.
> If you do purchase it for them, it's based on an account model. We
> provision the accounts that will be valid for the year, and "deprovision"
> those who have graduated - and it's by email so if you provide it, and
> their email goes away, deprovision those old provisions and newly provisi=
on
> the new. It typically takes our admin a couple of days to get everything
> set up (really, it's just because he keeps getting waylaid while doing it=
).
> There is an Outlook client for both PC and Mac, but it depends on if you
> have it in your license. i don't think we have Mac Outlook in ours, kinda
> deliberately, because it sux. You can put what you have available on the
> landing page - so what I see, as staff, is different from what the studen=
ts
> see, as students, because we have them provisioned differently.
>
> Cheers!
> Mike
>
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:53:33 -0500, Wendy Worlund <wendy.worlund@UAH.EDU>
> wrote:
>
> >We're thinking of finally admitting that Office365 is available to our
> >students:)
> >
> >I'd love to hear any feedback/advice you guys have. We're a Google Apps
> >for Education school (students, staff, and faculty on the same domain).
> >We don't have all users on Active Directory, yet. Our campus agreement
> >for Microsoft Office Pro is for university-owned computers. Below is my
> >scratch-pad list of questions/concerns:
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> > What should we tell the students?
> > -
> >
> > What tracking or anything is on us to do?
> > -
> >
> > Should they start at
> > https://products.office.com/en-us/student/office-in-education and
> > expect the software suite to only include what=E2=80=99s in the ho=
me/student
> > version (https://products.office.com/en-us/home-and-student)? We
> want
> > to tell users what it includes.
> > -
> >
> > How does the ongoing license validation work?
> > -
> >
> > What authentication happens after the initial requirement of th=
e
> > UAH email login and password?
> > -
> >
> > We assume license validation would be ongoing somehow.
> > -
> >
> > We're concerned about users who lose access to their UAH email
> > account. What=E2=80=99s the typical migration path? What happens w=
hen they
> > lose their UAH email account?
> > -
> >
> > Is it true that no Outlook client is included for Mac or PC?
> >
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Wendy Worlund
> >Manager of Client Services
> >UAH - Office of Information Technology
> >VBH C14
> >(256) 824-2616
> >wendy.worlund@uah.edu
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The online version of Office is free. Full local installs =
and use of the mobile apps cost $6/student/month and $8/user/month for facu=
lty and staff.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://products.office.com/en=
-us/academic/compare-office-365-education-plans">Compare Office 365 Educati=
on Plans</a></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><=
div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><p><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:x-small">Charles Barbour |=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:x-small">Educational Technologist</span><br></font></p><p><font face=3D"=
arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font size=3D"1">Office - 574-631-2386 |=C2=
=A0</font><span style=3D"font-size:x-small">Cell - 574-485-6076</span><span=
style=3D"font-size:x-small"><br></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3D"1" face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">B003 Edward J DeB=
artolo Hall - Notre Dame IN 46556</font></p>
<p><font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span><font size=3D"1"><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:cbarbour@nd.edu" target=3D"_blank">cbarbour@nd.edu</a>=C2=A0|=
=C2=A0</font></span><a href=3D"https://blogs.nd.edu/ndedtechguy/" style=3D"=
font-size:x-small" target=3D"_blank">https://blogs.nd.edu/ndedtechguy/</a><=
/font></p>
<p><i><font size=3D"1" face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">To achieve gre=
at things, two things are needed; a plan, and not quite enough time. - Leon=
ard Bernstein</font></i></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Osborne, Bru=
ce W (Network Services) <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bosborne@li=
berty.edu" target=3D"_blank">bosborne@liberty.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">You *do* realize Microsoft offers Office 365=
free for students, right?<br>
<br>
See <a href=3D"https://products.office.com/en-us/student/office-in-educatio=
n" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://products.office.com/<wbr>en=
-us/student/office-in-<wbr>education</a><br>
<br>
Bruce Osborne<br>
Wireless Engineer<br>
IT Network=C2=A0Operations - Wireless<br>
=C2=A0<a href=3D"tel:%28434%29%20592-4229" value=3D"+14345924229">(434) 592=
-4229</a><br>
=C2=A0<br>
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY<br>
Training Champions for Christ since 1971<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Mike Malsed [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mike.malsed@CLAREMONTMCKENNA.ED=
U">mike.malsed@<wbr>CLAREMONTMCKENNA.EDU</a>]<br>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:20 AM<br>
Subject: Re: Finally considering the support of Office 365 for our students=
<br>
<br>
We've always supported any Office on student computers - in the past co=
uple of years we've begun paying for their Office 365, but even before =
that, we supported it because it's in line with my mission to support t=
heir academic computing, and since Office is the only thing that's FULL=
Y compatible with Office (Work and OO are compatible, but not FULLY compati=
ble - Save As, blah blah blah) we've always supported students in using=
Office.<br>
<br>
Tracking: If you do not purchase it for them, you don't need to track i=
t. Track issues as you typically would. :) Where to get it: We've point=
ed them toward Amazon - it tends to have better deals on there. The only th=
ree products we push hard are Word, Excel and PowerPoint. Others are cool, =
especially OneNote (which is free and multi-platform, and have you seen the=
new math "tutorial" thing? Cool!!!) but not really necessary.<br=
>
License validation: it's now a subscription model but if you don't =
buy it for them, it's their responsibility.<br>
If you do purchase it for them, it's based on an account model. We prov=
ision the accounts that will be valid for the year, and "deprovision&q=
uot; those who have graduated - and it's by email so if you provide it,=
and their email goes away, deprovision those old provisions and newly prov=
ision the new. It typically takes our admin a couple of days to get everyth=
ing set up (really, it's just because he keeps getting waylaid while do=
ing it).<br>
There is an Outlook client for both PC and Mac, but it depends on if you ha=
ve it in your license. i don't think we have Mac Outlook in ours, kinda=
deliberately, because it sux. You can put what you have available on the l=
anding page - so what I see, as staff, is different from what the students =
see, as students, because we have them provisioned differently.<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:53:33 -0500, Wendy Worlund <<a href=3D"mailto:wen=
dy.worlund@UAH.EDU">wendy.worlund@UAH.EDU</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
>We're thinking of finally admitting that Office365 is available to =
our<br>
>students:)<br>
><br>
>I'd love to hear any feedback/advice you guys have. We're a Goo=
gle Apps<br>
>for Education school (students, staff, and faculty on the same domain).=
<br>
>We don't have all users on Active Directory, yet. Our campus agreem=
ent<br>
>for Microsoft Office Pro is for university-owned computers. Below is my=
<br>
>scratch-pad list of questions/concerns:<br>
><br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0-<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0What should we tell the students?<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0-<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 What tracking or anything is on us to do?<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Should they start at<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://products.office.com/en-us/stude=
nt/office-in-education" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://produc=
ts.office.com/<wbr>en-us/student/office-in-<wbr>education</a> and<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 expect the software suite to only include what=E2=
=80=99s in the home/student<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 version (<a href=3D"https://products.office.com/en=
-us/home-and-student" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://products=
.office.com/<wbr>en-us/home-and-student</a>)? We want<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 to tell users what it includes.<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 How does the ongoing license validation work?<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0What authentication happens after the=
initial requirement of the<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0UAH email login and password?<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0We assume license validation would be=
ongoing somehow.<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 We're concerned about users who lose access to=
their UAH email<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 account. What=E2=80=99s the typical migration path=
? What happens when they<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 lose their UAH email account?<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -<br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Is it true that no Outlook client is included for =
Mac or PC?<br>
><br>
><br>
>Thanks in advance,<br>
><br>
>Wendy Worlund<br>
>Manager of Client Services<br>
>UAH - Office of Information Technology<br>
>VBH C14<br>
><a href=3D"tel:%28256%29%20824-2616" value=3D"+12568242616">(256) 824-2=
616</a><br>
><a href=3D"mailto:wendy.worlund@uah.edu">wendy.worlund@uah.edu</a><br>
><br>
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