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Re: CrashPlan
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ian Gudger)
Tue Aug 16 15:30:05 2016
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Are you sure? It still lists Java as a system requirement for both the home
and business versions:
https://www.crashplan.com/en-us/business/features/
http://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/4/Getting_Started/Code42_CrashPlan_Syst=
em_Requirements
I personally found Crashplan to be extremely slow.
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Joseph Farrell <farreljq@bc.edu> wrote:
> That's a great point, yes the client no longer requires Java or any other
> add-in. So that's good. That would be a huge drawback.
>
> On Aug 16, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Mike King <me@MPKING.COM <me@mpking.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I was a home user of Crashplan, but eventually switched away because the
> java client consumed so much of the PC's resources. It was based on Java=
,
> and Crashplan acknowledged that it was client design issue. They said (f=
or
> almost 3 years straight) that they were converting to a native client,
> which would eliminate the use of Java, and the performance problem. The
> client never came out, instead of renewing, I switched (Actually I switch=
ed
> to Carbonite)
>
> Has Crashplan finally made the move to a native client? I also recognize
> that the home edition may be entirely independent of the Enterprise editi=
on.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Eric Lemmons <eric.lemmons@acu.edu> wrote=
:
>
>> We've just switched over to CrashPlan from many years of using Carbonite=
.
>> We like CrashPlan so far and would recommend against Carbonite.
>>
>> The biggest hurdle for us was mass deployment, but CrashPlan worked with
>> us to get us what we needed. We have it set so that after install, they
>> just log in with their ACU AD credentials and they are set. We are 8 mon=
ths
>> in and have not regretted the decision.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Wendy Worlund <wendy.worlund@uah.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We show people how they can view their files directly from the cloud
>>> (even on their mobile devices) and watch them flip out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wendy Worlund
>>> Manager of Client Services
>>> UAH - Office of Information Technology
>>> VBH C14
>>> (256) 824-2616
>>> wendy.worlund@uah.edu
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Nick Sonsteby <nsonsteb@gustavus.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, CrashPlan just saved the day today for a user! woohoo! (big
>>>> sigh of relief! - It was tough making those calls when they had no bac=
kups
>>>> and we couldn't retrieve their data with file recovery methods).
>>>>
>>>> It is definitely worth the cost, especially each time CrashPlan saves
>>>> the day. We are very happy with CrashPlan both on macOS and Windows. W=
e
>>>> have been using CrashPlan for about a year now for faculty and staff.
>>>>
>>>> When doing an automatic push deployment, make sure you let people know
>>>> how to exclude home networks when they use a metered Mifi/Hotspot as t=
heir
>>>> main internet connection.
>>>>
>>>> -Nick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Chris Steele <chris.steele@angelo.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do get any feedback off list we=E2=80=99d be interested as wel=
l. We
>>>>> just opened a project request for this same thing on our end. At fir=
st
>>>>> glance we like the Crashplan model.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Chris Steele*
>>>>> *Technology Services Analyst and Project Lead, Information Technology=
*
>>>>> Angelo State University
>>>>> Member, Texas Tech University System
>>>>> ASU Station #11020
>>>>> San Angelo, TX 76909-1020
>>>>> Phone: (325)486-6204
>>>>>
>>>>> csteele@angelo.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] *On Behalf Of =
*Joseph
>>>>> Farrell
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 1:53 PM
>>>>> *To:* RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>>>>> *Subject:* CrashPlan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> We currently have a project underway evaluating a couple
>>>>> different vendors for client endpoint backup. Our current solution is
>>>>> showing its age and is ready for retirement.
>>>>>
>>>>> One vendor is Crashplan. We expect about 2500 devices in the initial
>>>>> deployment. We are an Altiris (oh, I mean Symantec Management Platfor=
m)
>>>>> shop.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are using CrashPlan in an Enterprise model, I=E2=80=99d apprec=
iate
>>>>> hearing the good, bad, and the ugly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any revelations you wish you had known before buying or deploying?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joseph Farrell
>>>>>
>>>>> Senior Applications Administrator
>>>>>
>>>>> Systems and Operations
>>>>>
>>>>> Boston College
>>>>>
>>>>> 617-552-4162
>>>>>
>>>>> *j <steven.hatch@bc.edu>oseph.farrell.4@bc.edu
>>>>> <oseph.farrell.4@bc.edu>*
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Technology Helpline Coordinator
>>>> User Services - Technology Services
>>>> Gustavus Adolphus College
>>>> nsonsteb@gustavus.edu
>>>> 507-933-7130
>>>>
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>>>>
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>> Eric Lemmons
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>> ACU Technology Support Services
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Are you sure? It still lists Java as a system requirement =
for both the home and business versions:<div><a href=3D"https://www.crashpl=
an.com/en-us/business/features/">https://www.crashplan.com/en-us/business/f=
eatures/</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/4=
/Getting_Started/Code42_CrashPlan_System_Requirements">http://support.code4=
2.com/CrashPlan/4/Getting_Started/Code42_CrashPlan_System_Requirements</a><=
br></div><div><br></div><div>I personally found Crashplan to be extremely s=
low.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Joseph Farrell <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:farreljq@bc.edu" target=3D"_blank">farreljq@bc.edu</a>></sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div></div><=
div>That's a great point, yes the client no longer requires Java or any=
other add-in. So that's good. That would be a huge drawback.</div><div=
><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On Aug 16, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Mike King <<a =
href=3D"mailto:me@mpking.com" target=3D"_blank">me@MPKING.COM</a>> wrote=
:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I was a home=
user of Crashplan, but eventually switched away because the java client co=
nsumed so much of the PC's resources.=C2=A0 It was based on Java, and C=
rashplan acknowledged that it was client design issue.=C2=A0 They said (for=
almost 3 years straight) that they were converting to a native client, =C2=
=A0which would eliminate the use of Java, and the performance problem. The =
client never came out, instead of renewing, I switched (Actually I switched=
to Carbonite)<div><br></div><div>Has Crashplan finally made the move to a =
native client?=C2=A0 I also recognize that the home edition may be entirely=
independent of the Enterprise edition.<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></=
div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri,=
Aug 5, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Eric Lemmons <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mail=
to:eric.lemmons@acu.edu" target=3D"_blank">eric.lemmons@acu.edu</a>></sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">We've jus=
t switched over to CrashPlan from many years of using Carbonite. We like Cr=
ashPlan so far and would recommend against Carbonite.<div><br></div><div>Th=
e biggest hurdle for us was mass deployment, but CrashPlan worked with us t=
o get us what we needed. We have it set so that after install, they just lo=
g in with their ACU AD credentials and they are set. We are 8 months in and=
have not regretted the decision.</div><div><br></div><div>-Eric</div></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri=
, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Wendy Worlund <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:wendy.worlund@uah.edu" target=3D"_blank">wendy.worlund@uah.edu</a>>=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">We show p=
eople how they can view their files directly from the cloud (even on their =
mobile devices) and watch them flip out.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><s=
pan><br clear=3D"all"><div><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>Wendy Worlund<br>Manager of Client Servi=
ces<br>UAH - Office of Information Technology<br>VBH C14<br><a href=3D"tel:=
%28256%29%20824-2616" value=3D"+12568242616" target=3D"_blank">(256) 824-26=
16</a><br><a href=3D"mailto:wendy.worlund@uah.edu" target=3D"_blank">wendy.=
worlund@uah.edu</a></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:56=
PM, Nick Sonsteby <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:nsonsteb@gustavu=
s.edu" target=3D"_blank">nsonsteb@gustavus.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Actually, CrashPlan just saved=
the day today for a user! woohoo! (big sigh of relief! - It was tough maki=
ng those calls when they had no backups and we couldn't retrieve their =
data with file recovery methods).=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>It is definitely=
worth the cost, especially each time CrashPlan saves the day. We are very =
happy with CrashPlan both on macOS and Windows.=C2=A0We have been using Cra=
shPlan for about a year now for faculty and staff.<br><div><div><br></div><=
div>When doing an automatic push deployment, make sure you let people know =
how to exclude home networks when they use a metered Mifi/Hotspot as their =
main internet connection.</div><div><br></div><div>-Nick</div><div><br></di=
v><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Chris Steele <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:chris.steele@angelo.edu" target=3D"_blank">chris.steele=
@angelo.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(2=
04,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"white=
" lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Joe,<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(3=
1,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If you do get any feedback off li=
st we=E2=80=99d be interested as well.=C2=A0 We just opened a project reque=
st for this same thing on our end.=C2=A0 At first glance we like the Crashp=
lan model.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Th=
anks!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;co=
lor:rgb(0,49,104)">Chris Steele</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;col=
or:rgb(31,73,125)"><br><i>Technology Services Analyst and Project Lead, Inf=
ormation Technology</i><br>Angelo State University<br>Member, Texas Tech Un=
iversity System<br>ASU Station #11020<br>San Angelo, TX 76909-1020<br>Phone=
: <a href=3D"tel:%28325%29486-6204" value=3D"+13254866204" target=3D"_blank=
">(325)486-6204</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href=3D"mailto:csteele@ange=
lo.edu" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:blue">csteele@angelo.edu</sp=
an></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"bord=
er-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width=
:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"> Resnet Forum [mailt=
o:<a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RESNET-L@LI=
STSERV.ND.E<wbr>DU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Farrell<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Friday, August 05, 2016 1:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LI=
STSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br><b>Subject=
:</b> CrashPlan<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14pt">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:14pt">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 We currently have a =
project underway evaluating a couple different vendors for client endpoint =
backup. Our current solution is showing its age and is ready for retirement=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
4pt">One vendor is Crashplan. We expect about 2500 devices in the initial d=
eployment. We are an Altiris (oh, I mean Symantec Management Platform) shop=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
4pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:14pt">If you are using CrashPlan in an Enterprise model, I=E2=80=
=99d appreciate hearing the good, bad, and the ugly. <u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">Any reve=
lations you wish you had known before buying or deploying?<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">Bes=
t,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
14pt">Joe<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black">Joseph Farrell<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black">Senior App=
lications Administrator<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black">Systems and Operations<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black=
">Boston College<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:14pt;color:black"><a href=3D"tel:617-552-4162" value=3D"+1617=
5524162" target=3D"_blank">617-552-4162</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><u><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;color:rgb(18,85,204)"><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:steven.hatch@bc.edu" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:b=
lue">j</span></a><a href=3D"mailto:oseph.farrell.4@bc.edu" target=3D"_blank=
"><span style=3D"color:rgb(4,46,238)">oseph.farrell.4@bc.edu</span></a></sp=
an></u><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
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