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Re: Port per pillow versus port per room

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
Sat May 21 04:47:30 2016

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Central wireless is different than what was presented as having an "inexpen=
sive personal Wi-Fi router".


Bruce Osborne

Wireless Engineer

IT Network Services - Wireless



(434) 592-4229[X]



LIBERTY UNIVERSITY

Training Champions for Christ since 1971


________________________________
From: John Savage <john.savage@YU.EDU>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Port per pillow versus port per room


There is a central enterprise system; it=92s just not yours, it=92s the pho=
ne company=92s.



We do this (Verizon FiOS), and it works very well from a technology standpo=
int. From Verizon=92s perspective, a dorm is no different than an apartment=
 building, and the en-suite equipment is the same they deploy in any other =
high-density residential setting. If this weren=92t a solved problem for th=
em, none of us who live in New York or any other large city would have any =
internet at all=85but we all do.



And as an added bonus, DMCA violation notices go to the teclo, too, and are=
 handled on an account-by-account basis.



The only issues we have are around customer service: since it=92s campus ho=
using, the students really want to be able to call Student Life, not Verizo=
n, when they have copyright violations or other issues, so there=92s a litt=
le friction around that, especially at the start of the school year.

And since Verizon views each room as a separate account, it=92s hard for us=
 to know when there are outages. Fortunately, there typically aren=92t many=
.



Best,



--j



Jay Savage, Ph.D.

Director of Technology Planning

Yeshiva University

jsavage1@yu.edu<mailto:jsavage1@yu.edu>





From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Voelker, =
Andy
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:25 AM
To: John Savage <john.savage@yu.edu>
Subject: Re: Port per pillow versus port per room



Yes, part of the problem is that even if you scale back the power on the =
=93routers=94 the clients still blast however loud they want, and on shared=
 channel space.  You also don=92t have much in the way of band steering and=
 load balancing.  That leads to a lot of inefficiency and poor channel usag=
e.  I can appreciate the =93hands-off=94 nature, but I would be concerned a=
bout the quality of experience.



Andy Voelker

Network Technician/Wireless LAN Manager

Davidson College



From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, =
Bruce W (Network Services)
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 7:42 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Port per pillow versus port per room



That sounds like an RF nightmare, especially with wireless home routers. Yo=
u really need a central enterprise system to intelligently allocate Rf chan=
nels & power levels.





Bruce Osborne

Wireless Engineer

IT Network Services - Wireless



(434) 592-4229



LIBERTY UNIVERSITY

Training Champions for Christ since 1971



From: John Stewart [mailto:john_stewart@carleton.ca]
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Port per pillow versus port per room



On 16-05-18 06:49 PM, Norman Myers wrote:

We are in the process of designing a new residence hall and of course costs=
 are higher than the budget they put at a minimum to get the project approv=
ed.  Now as they look to reduce cost they are trying to reduce port per pil=
low to port per room for hard wire.  The main problem here is our wireless =
network (run by campus IT) does not support game consoles and smart TVs.  O=
ur sign in requires username and password while most devices only use passw=
ord on the selected network.  Looking for feedback on anyone using port per=
 room, can it be done without mini switches, hubs etc?  I=92d especially li=
ke to hear anyone who talked a project manager out of trying port per room =
and your arguments.

I don't think I have seen anyone talk about the type of solution I saw at t=
he University of New Brunswick in Fredericton when I attended the CANHEIT c=
onference last summer.  They have outsourced Internet and phone service in =
their residences to a local telecom, Bell Alliant.   Instead of trying to i=
mplement an enterprise style wifi service with WPA2 type authentication, th=
ey treat each residence room as a separate residential home.   So in other =
words, each residence room has its own inexpensive personal wifi router wit=
h its own SSID and password.  These are low power units as they are really =
only intended to provide coverage within the room they are situated in.   E=
ach room only needs one wired connection for the wifi router as additional =
wired devices can be plugged into the four wired ports on the AP.  Phone se=
rvice is provided with a VOIP phone plugged into one of the ports on the wi=
fi router.   The speed of the Internet connection is superior to what stude=
nts had when they were sharing the campus Internet pipe.  Students are prov=
ided with a number to report problems directly to Bell Alliant and I would =
assume this support is available for much larger time period than what woul=
d be provided by a university managed service desk.  It was a bit of a surp=
rise to find a wifi router in the residence room I was staying in!

Students don't have a roaming capability, but they would not have that anyw=
ays if they were living off campus.

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ri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> John Savage &lt;joh=
n.savage@YU.EDU&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 20, 2016 10:22 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Port per pillow versus port per room</font>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">There is a central enterprise system; it=92s ju=
st not yours, it=92s the phone company=92s.
</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">We do this (Verizon FiOS), and it works very we=
ll from a technology standpoint. From Verizon=92s perspective, a dorm is no=
 different than an apartment building, and the
 en-suite equipment is the same they deploy in any other high-density resid=
ential setting. If this weren=92t a solved problem for them, none of us who=
 live in New York or any other large city would have any internet at all=85=
but we all do.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">And as an added bonus, DMCA violation notices g=
o to the teclo, too, and are handled on an account-by-account basis.
</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">The only issues we have are around customer ser=
vice: since it=92s campus housing, the students really want to be able to c=
all Student Life, not Verizon, when they have
 copyright violations or other issues, so there=92s a little friction aroun=
d that, especially at the start of the school year.<br>
<br>
And since Verizon views each room as a separate account, it=92s hard for us=
 to know when there are outages. Fortunately, there typically aren=92t many=
.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Best,</span></p>
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 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">--j</span></p>
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ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Jay Savage, Ph.D.</span></p>
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ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Director of Technology Planning</span></p>
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<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Yeshiva University</span></p>
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<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: under=
line;" href=3D"mailto:jsavage1@yu.edu">jsavage1@yu.edu</a></span></p>
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<b><span style=3D"color: windowtext; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif; font-size: 11pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"color: windowtext; =
font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> Resnet Foru=
m [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Voelker, Andy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 20, 2016 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Savage &lt;john.savage@yu.edu&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Port per pillow versus port per room</span></p>
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 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Yes, part of the problem is that even if you sc=
ale back the power on the =93routers=94 the clients still blast however lou=
d they want, and on shared channel space.&nbsp; You also
 don=92t have much in the way of band steering and load balancing.&nbsp; Th=
at leads to a lot of inefficiency and poor channel usage.&nbsp; I can appre=
ciate the =93hands-off=94 nature, but I would be concerned about the qualit=
y of experience.
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<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Andy Voelker</span></p>
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 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Network Technician/Wireless LAN Manager</span><=
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 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Davidson College</span></p>
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<b><span style=3D"color: windowtext; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif; font-size: 11pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"color: windowtext; =
font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> Resnet Foru=
m [<a style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href=3D"mailto:RES=
NET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 20, 2016 7:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href=3D"ma=
ilto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">
RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Port per pillow versus port per room</span></p>
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<a name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-fa=
mily: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">That sounds like an=
 RF nightmare, especially with wireless home routers. You really need a cen=
tral enterprise system to intelligently allocate
 Rf channels &amp; power levels.</span></a><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73=
, 125); font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"></sp=
an></p>
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font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> John Stewar=
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n_stewart@carleton.ca">mailto:john_stewart@carleton.ca</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:30 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Port per pillow versus port per room</span></p>
</div>
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On 16-05-18 06:49 PM, Norman Myers wrote:</p>
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 Roman&quot;,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 14pt=
;">We are in the process of designing a new residence hall and of course co=
sts are higher than the budget they put at a minimum to get the project app=
roved.&nbsp; Now as they look to reduce cost they
 are trying to reduce port per pillow to port per room for hard wire.&nbsp;=
 The main problem here is our wireless network (run by campus IT) does not =
support game consoles and smart TVs.&nbsp; Our sign in requires username an=
d password while most devices only use password
 on the selected network.&nbsp; Looking for feedback on anyone using port p=
er room, can it be done without mini switches, hubs etc?&nbsp; I=92d especi=
ally like to hear anyone who talked a project manager out of trying port pe=
r room and your arguments.</span></p>
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<br>
I don't think I have seen anyone talk about the type of solution I saw at t=
he University of New Brunswick in Fredericton when I attended the CANHEIT c=
onference last summer.&nbsp; They have outsourced Internet and phone servic=
e in their residences to a local telecom,
 Bell Alliant.&nbsp;&nbsp; Instead of trying to implement an enterprise sty=
le wifi service with WPA2 type authentication, they treat each residence ro=
om as a separate residential home.&nbsp;&nbsp; So in other words, each resi=
dence room has its own inexpensive personal wifi router
 with its own SSID and password.&nbsp; These are low power units as they ar=
e really only intended to provide coverage within the room they are situate=
d in.&nbsp;&nbsp; Each room only needs one wired connection for the wifi ro=
uter as additional wired devices can be plugged
 into the four wired ports on the AP.&nbsp; Phone service is provided with =
a VOIP phone plugged into one of the ports on the wifi router.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
The speed of the Internet connection is superior to what students had when =
they were sharing the campus Internet pipe.&nbsp; Students
 are provided with a number to report problems directly to Bell Alliant and=
 I would assume this support is available for much larger time period than =
what would be provided by a university managed service desk.&nbsp; It was a=
 bit of a surprise to find a wifi router
 in the residence room I was staying in!&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
<br>
Students don't have a roaming capability, but they would not have that anyw=
ays if they were living off campus.</p>
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