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Re: Port per pillow versus port per room
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Savage)
Fri May 20 08:04:13 2016
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Hi Norm,
Part of the question is what is driving your project manager's questions, a=
nd where s/he thinks the money can be saved. On the construction side, ther=
e shouldn't be much difference in the cabling cost between port-per-pillow =
and port-per-room. Run the cable now; it's much cheaper than retrofitting. =
If your contractor charges per termination, run it, but only terminate one =
per room. You can send somebody out with a crimper when you need to.
On the equipment side, you can size switches for port-per-room (or even les=
s), now, but if you need to grow the wires are there and you just need tail=
s from the patch panel to the new switch.
Whatever you do, though, don't let them take square footage from closets ju=
st because you're reducing the port count! Even if you never add all the sw=
itches, you'll end up wanting to rack something eventually. Trust me.
--j
Jay Savage
Director of Technology Planning
Yeshiva University ITS
Jsavage1@yu.edu
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Norman My=
ers
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:50 PM
To: John Savage <john.savage@yu.edu>
Subject: Port per pillow versus port per room
We are in the process of designing a new residence hall and of course costs=
are higher than the budget they put at a minimum to get the project approv=
ed. Now as they look to reduce cost they are trying to reduce port per pil=
low to port per room for hard wire. The main problem here is our wireless =
network (run by campus IT) does not support game consoles and smart TVs. O=
ur sign in requires username and password while most devices only use passw=
ord on the selected network. Looking for feedback on anyone using port per=
room, can it be done without mini switches, hubs etc? I'd especially like=
to hear anyone who talked a project manager out of trying port per room an=
d your arguments.
[University of Oregon]
Norm Myers, Computer Coordinator
University Housing, A Department in the Division of Student Life
University of Oregon
1595 E 15th Avenue, Eugene, OR 97403-1220
p: 541-346-5227
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Norm,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Part of the question is what is drivi=
ng your project manager’s questions, and where s/he thinks the money =
can be saved. On the construction side, there shouldn’t
be much difference in the cabling cost between port-per-pillow and port-pe=
r-room. Run the cable now; it’s much cheaper than retrofitting. If yo=
ur contractor charges per termination, run it, but only terminate one per r=
oom. You can send somebody out with a
crimper when you need to.<br>
<br>
On the equipment side, you can size switches for port-per-room (or even les=
s), now, but if you need to grow the wires are there and you just need tail=
s from the patch panel to the new switch.
<br>
<br>
Whatever you do, though, don’t let them take square footage from clos=
ets just because you’re reducing the port count! Even if you never ad=
d all the switches, you’ll end up wanting to rack something eventuall=
y. Trust me.<br>
<br>
--j<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jay Savage<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Director of Technology Planning<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yeshiva University ITS<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jsavage1@yu.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Norman Myers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Savage <john.savage@yu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Port per pillow versus port per room<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif">We are in the process of designing a new residence =
hall and of course costs are higher than the budget they put at a minimum t=
o get the project approved. Now as they look
to reduce cost they are trying to reduce port per pillow to port per room =
for hard wire. The main problem here is our wireless network (run by =
campus IT) does not support game consoles and smart TVs. Our sign in =
requires username and password while most
devices only use password on the selected network. Looking for feedb=
ack on anyone using port per room, can it be done without mini switches, hu=
bs etc? I’d especially like to hear anyone who talked a project=
manager out of trying port per room and your arguments.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<br>
Norm Myers, Computer Coordinator<br>
University Housing, A Department in the Division of Student Life<br>
University of Oregon<br>
1595 E 15th Avenue, Eugene, OR 97403-1220<br>
p: 541-346-5227<br>
f: 541-346-4268<br>
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