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Re: Coaxial Cable TV vs. IPTV
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jamie Piperberg)
Tue Feb 23 09:32:18 2016
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> On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Margaret Landsparger <margaret@MTU.EDU> =
wrote:
>=20
> Sending this out for a friend. What can you share with me?
>=20
> Coaxial Cable TV vs. IPTV
> =20
> I realize all campuses operate and function differently, so I=E2=80=99m =
posting this in the form of a few questions which may lead to an online =
survey in the near future.=20
> =20
> Does your campus maintain its own CATV distribution network or is it =
provided by a vendor such as AT&T, Time Warner, COMCAST, Xfinity, Dish, =
Campus Televideo?
> =20
No.
> Has your campus changed from coaxial cable TV to IPTV within the last =
two years?
> =20
No, we=E2=80=99ve had IP Tv since 2004 although we have made a major =
change to it in the last year.
> What were some of the major obstacles after the change?
> =20
We had only had cable tv in lounges, and switched to IP TV available to =
all students for a fee initially, and now we have switched to IP TV only =
in lounges, primarily due to low subscribership.
> How much notice did you give the housing residents and the campus =
(academic, athletic, other) departments prior to the change?
I don=E2=80=99t know what we did in 2004, but in the last year we =
didn=E2=80=99t do any notification.=20
> =20
> Did you receive negative feedback prior to or right after the change =
and who on campus (residents, academic, athletic, other) complained the =
most? =20
We=E2=80=99ve had a few students upset that they can=E2=80=99t get cable =
in their rooms anymore, but for the most part everyone is using =
Hulu/Netflix/other streaming accounts anyway.
> =20
> What additional hardware had to be installed in the residence halls to =
provide this service?
We already had ethernet to all of the rooms and lounges, and TVs in the =
lounges. I think initially some switches may have had to be reconfigured =
to allow multicast or upgraded if they weren=E2=80=99t capable of =
handling the traffic (but that was 12 years ago). Some students chose =
to purchase wired switches to split the signal from the wall to their =
IPTV box and the computer. We had to distribute IPTV boxes to all the =
lounges and secure them. For some TVs we had to buy some adapter cables =
but nothing major.
> =20
> What additional hardware did the student (resident) need to connect to =
his/her TV to receive IPTV and was this hardware provided by a =
department affiliated with the campus if not provided by your =
department?
We had set top boxes provided by our provider that were initially =
purchased, but later leased from the provider on a semester to semester =
basis. Throughout the 11 years we had the service we went through 4 =
different models of set top boxes. The boxes were handed out and =
returned at our Tech Desk at the beginning and end of every semester. =
We stored many of them for several weeks in advance of the pickup period =
and at the end of the return period, and we always had a few in stock in =
case a replacement was necessary. So far, the Roku boxes we are using =
now in lounges and public areas seem to be more reliable than the Amino =
boxes we were using previously. =20
> =20
> Do you use a campus provided username/password or other authentication =
in order to limit service us to only faculty, staff and students?
We used their BUID numbers to activate the boxes for students, which was =
also what was used to charge them for the content fee/STB lease. Any =
box in use by a live in staff member or department was activated by us.
> =20
> Did anyone see a spike in Bandwidth usage once the campus moved to =
IPTV, if so, how much additional Bandwidth is being purchased?
We used multicast so we didn=E2=80=99t see any significant spike in =
traffic. Our current system (Philo) uses unicast, but the overall usage =
is much more contained and I am not aware of any significant spike =
recently. We have upgraded our bandwidth for other reasons in the past =
12 years.
Jamie Piperberg
Library and IT Support
Bucknell University
>=20
> Margaret Landsparger
> Testing Center Coordinator
> Van Pelt and Opie Library 226
> 906 487-1001
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class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Margaret Landsparger <<a =
href=3D"mailto:margaret@MTU.EDU" class=3D"">margaret@MTU.EDU</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Sending this out for a friend. What can you share =
with me?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">Coaxial Cable TV vs. IPTV<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u> <u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">I realize all campuses =
operate and function differently, so I=E2=80=99m posting this in the =
form of a few questions which may lead to an online survey in the near =
future. <u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u> <u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">Does your campus maintain =
its own CATV distribution network or is it provided by a vendor such as =
AT&T, Time Warner, COMCAST, Xfinity, Dish, Campus Televideo?<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u> </span></div></div></div></div></blockquote>No.</div>=
<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
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class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">Has your campus changed from =
coaxial cable TV to IPTV within the last two years?<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u> </span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>No, we=E2=80=99ve had IP Tv since 2004 although we have =
made a major change to it in the last year.</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">What were some of the major =
obstacles after the change?<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u> </span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>We had only had cable tv in lounges, and switched to IP =
TV available to all students for a fee initially, and now we have =
switched to IP TV only in lounges, primarily due to low =
subscribership.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">How much notice did you give =
the housing residents and the campus (academic, athletic, other) =
departments prior to the change?<u =
class=3D""></u></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>I don=E2=80=99t know what we did in 2004, but in the =
last year we didn=E2=80=99t do any notification. </div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u> <u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">Did you receive negative =
feedback prior to or right after the change and who on campus =
(residents, academic, athletic, other) complained the =
most? <u =
class=3D""></u></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>We=E2=80=99ve had a few students upset that they =
can=E2=80=99t get cable in their rooms anymore, but for the most part =
everyone is using Hulu/Netflix/other streaming accounts =
anyway.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div=
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u> <u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">What additional hardware had =
to be installed in the residence halls to provide this service?<u =
class=3D""></u></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>We already had ethernet to all of the rooms and =
lounges, and TVs in the lounges. I think initially some switches may =
have had to be reconfigured to allow multicast or upgraded if they =
weren=E2=80=99t capable of handling the traffic (but that was 12 years =
ago). Some students chose to purchase wired switches to split the =
signal from the wall to their IPTV box and the computer. We had to =
distribute IPTV boxes to all the lounges and secure them. For some =
TVs we had to buy some adapter cables but nothing major.</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u> <u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">What additional hardware did =
the student (resident) need to connect to his/her TV to receive IPTV and =
was this hardware provided by a department affiliated with the campus if =
not provided by your department?<u =
class=3D""></u></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>We had set top boxes provided by our provider that were =
initially purchased, but later leased from the provider on a semester to =
semester basis. Throughout the 11 years we had the service we went =
through 4 different models of set top boxes. The boxes were handed =
out and returned at our Tech Desk at the beginning and end of every =
semester. We stored many of them for several weeks in advance of =
the pickup period and at the end of the return period, and we always had =
a few in stock in case a replacement was necessary. So far, the =
Roku boxes we are using now in lounges and public areas seem to be more =
reliable than the Amino boxes we were using previously. =
</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u> <u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">Do you use a campus provided =
username/password or other authentication in order to limit service us =
to only faculty, staff and students?<u =
class=3D""></u></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>We used their BUID numbers to activate the boxes for =
students, which was also what was used to charge them for the content =
fee/STB lease. Any box in use by a live in staff member or =
department was activated by us.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u> <u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New =
Roman',serif;color:rgb(0,0,204)" class=3D"">Did anyone see a spike in =
Bandwidth usage once the campus moved to IPTV, if so, how much =
additional Bandwidth is being =
purchased?</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>We used multicast so we didn=E2=80=99t see any =
significant spike in traffic. Our current system (Philo) uses =
unicast, but the overall usage is much more contained and I am not aware =
of any significant spike recently. We have upgraded our bandwidth =
for other reasons in the past 12 years.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Jamie Piperberg</div><div>Library and IT =
Support</div><div>Bucknell University</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Margaret =
Landsparger<div class=3D"">Testing Center Coordinator</div><div =
class=3D"">Van Pelt and Opie Library 226<br class=3D"">906 487-1001<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></div></div>
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