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RE: Tonight's meeting

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael E Plasmeier)
Tue Oct 19 00:04:02 2010

From: Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@MIT.EDU>
To: Allan E Miramonti <allanm@mit.edu>,
        "ua-senate@mit.edu"
	<ua-senate@mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:03:59 -0400
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikCypi0e6E+DmUxv8uDZEM5rTD0EFGk3L=Y2d7H@mail.gmail.com>

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Thanks.  I understand that many of the Senators wished to adjourn for the n=
ight because they have other personal issues to attend to tonight which may=
 be more important than changes to Athena/printing.    However, as an outsi=
der I would suggest that Senate meetings would be more successful if they d=
iscussed actual issues facing students rather than Robert's Rules of Order.=
  I know this is challenging to do to make sure that all students will have=
 a voice (see the bill that failed today) - but at the same time Robert's r=
ules is an endurance contest, where students who do not endure do not get a=
 view.  I also understand that Robert's Rules were written in 1876 by peopl=
e who had all the time in the world.....

(I just shudder about sitting there for another few hours next Monday.  I h=
ave a deep, deep respect for the senators who do this every Monday.)

Thank you for your time

-Michael

From: thebigal1@gmail.com [mailto:thebigal1@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Allan M=
iramonti
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:54 PM
To: ua-senate@mit.edu
Subject: Tonight's meeting

Hello,

I am writing to let Senate know that I am not okay with the actions taken b=
y Senate tonight with regards to skipping over scheduled business and discu=
ssion.   Thankfully, we found a way to backtrack a bit and have you guys do=
 your jobs.  I would like to remind my fellow senators that you took an oat=
h to do your jobs, and that means attending to the business at hand.  I do =
not care that it is past your bedtime, nor do I care about your personal op=
inion on an agenda item.  If you are too lazy to represent the student body=
, I recommend you resign immediately.

I don't fault those who make motions that are within everyone's rights to m=
ake, but I do demand that our senators care about their office.

Respectfully,
Allan Miramonti
Random Senator

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bsp; I understand that many of the Senators wished to adjourn for the night=
 because they have other personal issues to attend to tonight which may be =
more important than changes to Athena/printing.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;However, =
as an outsider I would suggest that Senate meetings would be more successfu=
l if they discussed actual issues facing students rather than Robert&#8217;=
s Rules of Order.&nbsp; I know this is challenging to do to make sure that =
all students will have a voice (see the bill that failed today) &#8211; but=
 at the same time Robert&#8217;s rules is an endurance contest, where stude=
nts who do not endure do not get a view.&nbsp; I also understand that Rober=
t&#8217;s Rules were written in 1876 by people who had all the time in the =
world&#8230;..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(I just shudder about sitting =
there for another few hours next Monday.&nbsp; I have a deep, deep respect =
for the senators who do this every Monday.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
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>Thank you for your time<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span st=
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o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Michael<o:p></o:p><=
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"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-=
serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma=
","sans-serif"'> thebigal1@gmail.com [mailto:thebigal1@gmail.com] <b>On Beh=
alf Of </b>Allan Miramonti<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 18, 2010 11:54 P=
M<br><b>To:</b> ua-senate@mit.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> Tonight's meeting<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>Hello,<br><br>I am writing to let Senate know that I am not okay with =
the actions taken by Senate tonight with regards to skipping over scheduled=
 business and discussion.&nbsp;&nbsp; Thankfully, we found a way to backtra=
ck a bit and have you guys do your jobs.&nbsp; I would like to remind my fe=
llow senators that you took an oath to do your jobs, and that means attendi=
ng to the business at hand.&nbsp; I do not care that it is past your bedtim=
e, nor do I care about your personal opinion on an agenda item.&nbsp; If yo=
u are too lazy to represent the student body, I recommend you resign immedi=
ately. <br><br>I don't fault those who make motions that are within everyon=
e's rights to make, but I do demand that our senators care about their offi=
ce.<br><br>Respectfully,<br>Allan Miramonti<br>Random Senator <o:p></o:p></=
p></div></body></html>=

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