[777] in UA Senate
Re: Bill to Save Time
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alex Dehnert)
Thu Sep 30 00:07:59 2010
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:07:56 -0400
From: Alex Dehnert <adehnert@MIT.EDU>
To: William Steadman <willst@mit.edu>
CC: ua-senate@mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <4CA40124.20108@mit.edu>
On 09/29/2010 11:16 PM, William Steadman wrote:
> Since I felt we spent too much time at the last meeting, this bill
> removes us following Roberts Rules of Order and lets the Speaker decide
> which parliamentary procedure to follow. If 5 senators object to his
> method we return to Roberts Rules of Order.
>
> It mostly speaks for itself. I like the quote by the GSC.
>
> Happy to change it,
>
> Will
>
> Bill to Save Time
>
> Whereas: 15 minutes were wasted in meeting 42 U.A.S 1 on a point of
> order, and in general by unessecary parliamentary procedure.
>
> Whereas: The G.S.C. ammended their consitution via bill 51 G.S.C. 9.2
> which specificly states ``The G.S.C. The Bylaws currently state that
> Roberts Rules of Order should be used as a means of
> maintaining order at Council meetings. However, these rules of order are
> very
> complicated, requiring formal motions to be made for even the most minor
> of things.
> Experience has shown that attempting to follow Roberts Rules leads to
> confusion and
> inefficiency. This amendment removes the restriction for using Roberts
> Rules, and
> instead simply states that the “presiding officer shall follow a
> Parliamentary procedure to
> be made available to the Council”.''
>
> Whereas: The Speaker already interprets Roberts Rules of Order.
>
>
>
> It is resolved that: Article IV Section B subsection 1 is ammended to
> say ``Any aspect of parliamentary procedure or rules not covered by
> these Bylaws or the UA Constitution shall be determined by the speaker.
> They will make this procedure available to the Senate. If durring a
AIUI, that boils down to "the Speaker should write some rules of order,
and give them to the Senate", which seems... excessive. Writing a good
set of parliamentary rules seems annoyingly time consuming.
RONR has the advantage that it's widely used, so it tends to be the
thing people are most likely to know ("most likely" may not mean much,
admittedly), you can find good teaching and reference materials, and the
details have been looked at enough to be sane.
I don't think Monday's incident was typical, and I think that as Jonte
grows more used to running meetings, he'll grow better at using RONR in
a way that moves the meeting forward without being perceived as
interfering with anyone's ability to be fairly heard (through speech
and/or voting).
> senate meeting, 5 senators object to the method of parliamentary
> procedure, then the Speaker will defer to Roberts Rules of Order (latest
> addtion) for the remainder of the meeting.''
~~Alex
