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Re: Meeting this evening - discuss!

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ted Hilk)
Tue Oct 13 21:50:31 2009

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:50:22 -0400
From: Ted Hilk <thilk@MIT.EDU>
To: Sammi Wyman <swyman@mit.edu>, Catherine Olsson <catherio@mit.edu>,
        ua-senate@mit.edu

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Thank you both -- as I said, I was merely trying to better understand the
issue.  I agree with Catherine: we need to discuss things like this in more
detail rather than making abrupt and potentially arbitrary cuts, and since
the event in question already happened, it needs to be discussed relative to
next year.

Ted

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Sammi Wyman <swyman@mit.edu> wrote:

> athletics weekend already happened.
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Catherine Olsson wrote:
>
>  Ted Hilk wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>   5. The UA operating budget should be approved as it stands. Yes, I am
>>>   concerned that we are spending so much money on PLUS and Athletics
>>>   Weekend, but think that should be a target for future budgets, not the
>>>   current budget. I am glad that there are concrete plans to hand
>>>   off PLUS
>>>   next year, and would like to see this promise held to. Thus I am
>>>   considering authoring a bill requiring the management of PLUS to be
>>>   handed over by next year as promised - is there support among other
>>>   senators?
>>>
>>> Why delay fixing these issues, and for how long?  T-shirts for Athletics
>>> in particular struck me as quite expensive relative to their potential
>>> benefit to the student body, and I would like to hear more about this.  A
>>> number of my constituents have already approached me about fiscal
>>> responsibility, and I feel that more attention should be given to the issue.
>>>
>>
>> In terms of PLUS, I don't see it as a delay in fixing the issue. The
>> handoff is underway. I want to make sure it really happens as we are
>> promised it will. (Jed's comments just now are reassuring).
>>
>> In terms of Athletics weekend, I'm suggesting we delay because we need to
>> analyze the importance of Athletics Weekend, not cut it off as a knee-jerk
>> reaction or haphazardly try to make a move at tonight's meeting with no
>> overarching philosophy. The t-shirts are a large part of what get people to
>> come out to Athletics Weekend - without them, our funding would be *totally*
>> wasted. But, the question remains, is the event still worthwhile if we have
>> to provide such strong incentives for attendance? I think possibly, but I'm
>> not sure. Hence I don't feel comfortable acting *now*, and would rather
>> discuss the issue of our spending as a whole at a more leisurely pace.
>>
>> If someone could provide a well thought-out plan for how to cut Athletics
>> Weekend funding for this year, and present it at this meeting, I would
>> consider supporting it, but I haven't seen any, and can't think of any right
>> now.
>>
>> - Catherine
>>
>
>

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Thank you both -- as I said, I was merely trying to better understand the i=
ssue.=A0 I agree with Catherine: we need to discuss things like this in mor=
e detail rather than making abrupt and potentially arbitrary cuts, and sinc=
e the event in question already happened, it needs to be discussed relative=
 to next year.<br>
<br>Ted<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM, =
Sammi Wyman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:swyman@mit.edu">swyman@=
mit.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padd=
ing-left: 1ex;">
athletics weekend already happened.<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Oct 13, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Catherine Olsson wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Ted Hilk wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
 =A0 5. The UA operating budget should be approved as it stands. Yes, I am<=
br>
 =A0 concerned that we are spending so much money on PLUS and Athletics<br>
 =A0 Weekend, but think that should be a target for future budgets, not the=
<br>
 =A0 current budget. I am glad that there are concrete plans to hand<br>
 =A0 off PLUS<br>
 =A0 next year, and would like to see this promise held to. Thus I am<br>
 =A0 considering authoring a bill requiring the management of PLUS to be<br=
>
 =A0 handed over by next year as promised - is there support among other<br=
>
 =A0 senators?<br>
<br>
Why delay fixing these issues, and for how long? =A0T-shirts for Athletics =
in particular struck me as quite expensive relative to their potential bene=
fit to the student body, and I would like to hear more about this. =A0A num=
ber of my constituents have already approached me about fiscal responsibili=
ty, and I feel that more attention should be given to the issue.<br>

</blockquote>
<br>
In terms of PLUS, I don&#39;t see it as a delay in fixing the issue. The ha=
ndoff is underway. I want to make sure it really happens as we are promised=
 it will. (Jed&#39;s comments just now are reassuring).<br>
<br>
In terms of Athletics weekend, I&#39;m suggesting we delay because we need =
to analyze the importance of Athletics Weekend, not cut it off as a knee-je=
rk reaction or haphazardly try to make a move at tonight&#39;s meeting with=
 no overarching philosophy. The t-shirts are a large part of what get peopl=
e to come out to Athletics Weekend - without them, our funding would be *to=
tally* wasted. But, the question remains, is the event still worthwhile if =
we have to provide such strong incentives for attendance? I think possibly,=
 but I&#39;m not sure. Hence I don&#39;t feel comfortable acting *now*, and=
 would rather discuss the issue of our spending as a whole at a more leisur=
ely pace.<br>

<br>
If someone could provide a well thought-out plan for how to cut Athletics W=
eekend funding for this year, and present it at this meeting, I would consi=
der supporting it, but I haven&#39;t seen any, and can&#39;t think of any r=
ight now.<br>

<br>
- Catherine<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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