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Re: HDAG Summaries Posted

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Hawkins)
Tue May 4 12:02:20 2010

Reply-To: hwkns@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <A5224E86-E8D5-406E-B3BB-71603A224380@mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 12:02:16 -0400
From: Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@MIT.EDU>
To: "David M. Templeton" <dtemp@mit.edu>
Cc: Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu>, ua-senate@mit.edu,
        ua-dining <ua-dining@mit.edu>

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I completely agree with dtemp.  These tell us nothing.  They're also really
late in the game.  And did the "weekly" comments on the web site stop after
one post?  Not that those were useful either...


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:16 PM, David M. Templeton <dtemp@mit.edu> wrote:

> I'd like to point out the lack of quality of these minutes; it is perhaps
> disingenuous to even call them minutes.
>
> There are no details, no discussion of proposals, no opinions of the
> present members, no votes.  This isn't really the transparency we need to
> see if the student members of the committee are doing their jobs
> satisfactorily, or if the admin members of the committee are listening to
> them.  Did we expect better minutes, or is this the type of committee that
> keeps ongoing discussion under wraps?
>
> Also, I'd like to be able to trace the progression of ideas from the HDAG
> meetings, to the final HDAG report, to the final decision by Colombo; this
> would show us how ideas were shaped over time, and how much student input
> was taken into consideration.  Do we even know if we're going to get a copy
> of the full HDAG report at the end?
>
> Dave
>
> On May 3, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:
>
> > Senate,
> >
> > HDAG has posted summaries of each meeting on the House Dining Review
> site.
> >
> > [http://studentlife.mit.edu/house-dining-review/updates#May3]
> >
> >
> > --
> > Adam Bockelie
> > 801.209.7233
> > <bockelie@mit.edu>
> >
> > Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> > Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
> > Class of 2011
>
>

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I completely agree with dtemp.=A0 These tell us nothing.=A0 They&#39;re als=
o really late in the game.=A0 And did the &quot;weekly&quot; comments on th=
e web site stop after one post?=A0 Not that those were useful either...<br>=
<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:16 PM, David M. Templet=
on <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dtemp@mit.edu">dtemp@mit.edu</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1=
ex;">
I&#39;d like to point out the lack of quality of these minutes; it is perha=
ps disingenuous to even call them minutes.<br>
<br>
There are no details, no discussion of proposals, no opinions of the presen=
t members, no votes. =A0This isn&#39;t really the transparency we need to s=
ee if the student members of the committee are doing their jobs satisfactor=
ily, or if the admin members of the committee are listening to them. =A0Did=
 we expect better minutes, or is this the type of committee that keeps ongo=
ing discussion under wraps?<br>

<br>
Also, I&#39;d like to be able to trace the progression of ideas from the HD=
AG meetings, to the final HDAG report, to the final decision by Colombo; th=
is would show us how ideas were shaped over time, and how much student inpu=
t was taken into consideration. =A0Do we even know if we&#39;re going to ge=
t a copy of the full HDAG report at the end?<br>

<br>
Dave<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On May 3, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Senate,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; HDAG has posted summaries of each meeting on the House Dining Review s=
ite.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [<a href=3D"http://studentlife.mit.edu/house-dining-review/updates#May=
3" target=3D"_blank">http://studentlife.mit.edu/house-dining-review/updates=
#May3</a>]<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Adam Bockelie<br>
&gt; 801.209.7233<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu">bockelie@mit.edu</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br>
&gt; Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering<br>
&gt; Class of 2011<br>
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