[588] in UA Senate
Re: Dining Idea Bank
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ted Hilk)
Thu Apr 8 02:20:23 2010
In-Reply-To: <v2p9d4f87ed1004072317h5e3f1adfvab2ba583ab428a9a@mail.gmail.com>
From: Ted Hilk <thilk@MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:19:57 -0400
To: hwkns@mit.edu
Cc: Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>, Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>,
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jont=E9_Craighead?= <jontec@mit.edu>,
Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu>, Austen W McRae <amcrae@mit.edu>,
UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
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The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talked to Prof. M=E9da=
rd,
who said at the time that it was slated for implementation pending EMG
review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. It would not be implemented until
the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so that wouldn't be next
year. Ergo it "hasn't happened yet." As far as I can tell it is still
probably cause for concern, unless a senior admin unilaterally rejected the
idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if it did happen).
Ted
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:
> I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "that hasn't happened yet."
> As far as I know, that means it probably won't take effect next year, but
> it's not off the table by any means.
>
> -hwkns
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductions in the Task Force
>> report? If Bennie said they weren't happening, that would be great news=
. I
>> was not able to attend that meeting. Please discuss further.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> What financial thing, what claims, what won't happen?
>>>
>>> -hwkns
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was under the impression we had the whole financial thing cleared up
>>>> during the last Senate Meeting. Did Bennie not say those claims are f=
alse
>>>> and it will not happen?
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Alexandra Jordan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Senate,
>>>>>
>>>>> I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours or so to go che=
ck
>>>>> out the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment on someone else's w=
hacky
>>>>> solutions.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is important to ALL of your constituencies, whether the decision=
s
>>>>> that come out of HDAG impact them directly or not. As representatives=
of
>>>>> your living groups and the student body at large, you have a responsi=
bility
>>>>> to get involved with this issue--especially when the admin makes it s=
o easy
>>>>> to put your ideas out there.
>>>>> I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT because
>>>>> you're incapable of independent thought, so please go do your jobs an=
d tell
>>>>> HDAG what students want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex Jordan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Addressed to the list in general:
>>>>>> <jargon>
>>>>>> Someone <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You> should make a JS-enabled
>>>>>> frameset and host it on the UA website if the staff for the site is =
not too
>>>>>> excited about adding a ranking system; essentially you have an upper=
frame
>>>>>> (10% of the screen) with stars/rating system, the lower frame (90%) =
shows
>>>>>> the IdeaBank site. You should always be able to find the current url=
of the
>>>>>> lower frame and reading the links on that page gives you the user th=
at's
>>>>>> currently logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store the rating=
s in a
>>>>>> database and you've got yourself some statistics. The only issue wou=
ld be
>>>>>> advertising the site so that people can use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </jargon>
>>>>>> Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last resort to be weigh=
ed
>>>>>> against the potential political fallout. Also, I don't actually have=
the
>>>>>> time to do this.
>>>>>> Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link <
>>>>>> https://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-di=
ning-proposal-committee-recommendations>]
>>>>>> (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-forum about his "=
idea"
>>>>>> and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to take a look. If there was=
ever an
>>>>>> appropriate use for a (house)-forum list... this is it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jont=E9 Craighead
>>>>>> Concerned Undergrad from Next House
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RE Rating System. From Tom Gearty: "
>>>>>>> I will email IS&T to find out and let you know as soon as I hear
>>>>>>> back."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <amcrae@mit.edu<mailto=
:
>>>>>>> amcrae@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stars are for kirby and mario. On the other hand, why they don't
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> master chiefs, I have no idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -"you are the weakest link" *splat*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu<mail=
to:
>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's been out for a matter of hours. Don't worry, my ideas will
>>>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>>>> up there soon. I also plan on making sure everything relevant fr=
om
>>>>>>>>> the DPC
>>>>>>>>> report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparently want
>>>>>>>>> to avoid
>>>>>>>>> mentioning it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm with Paul - this is the same site they used for the task forc=
e
>>>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>>> (why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?), and
>>>>>>>>> those ideas
>>>>>>>>> could be rated with 1-5 stars. That seems to me like a very
>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>> feature that is currently missing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu<m=
ailto:
>>>>>>>>> bockelie@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea bank is
>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>> and I don't see many of your ideas. Do what you want outside
>>>>>>>>>> HDAG,
>>>>>>>>>> but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to the
>>>>>>>>>> committee as well....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu<ma=
ilto:
>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I want to thank those of you who contributed to the discussion =
on
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> tonight. I was surprised at how many senators just didn't care=
.
>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>>> were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than you were
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> student engagement. Maybe you should consider joining Finboard
>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> Senate next time around.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu<m=
ailto:
>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu<=
mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Senate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the effec=
t
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, "I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anything we c=
an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> point?" Maybe there is. While Colombo just wants this to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the higher level administration actually wants to get it righ=
t.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we give
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>>>>>>> week of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> May. I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or come up wit=
h
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Take minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetings and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Involve ALL undergrads. This change affects everyone, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has ideas. Make a public moira list for discussion, monitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frequently, and respond to questions and concerns raised by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> students.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW. Not by the end of the week, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can make it look as pretty as you want it to. Now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. By April 16, publish a document that includes all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the Idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bank to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which they apply, and let student input continue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. By April 30, publish a document that includes all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, and with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> detailed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> responses to any feedback on old ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. By May 14, publish a document that outlines the new dining
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of student input on each topic and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasoning
>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the choice that was ultimately made.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>>>>> Class of 2011
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________
>>>>> Alexandra Jordan
>>>>>
>>>>> MIT 2011
>>>>> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
>>>>> Political Science
>>>>>
>>>>> amjordan@mit.edu <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu>
>>>>> 916.813.7740
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talked to Prof. M=E9da=
rd, who said at the time that it was slated for implementation pending EMG =
review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. =A0It would not be implemented unt=
il the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so that wouldn't be n=
ext year. =A0Ergo it "hasn't happened yet." =A0As far as I ca=
n tell it is still probably cause for concern, unless a senior admin unilat=
erally rejected the idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if it did hap=
pen).<div>
<br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr=
8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto=
:hwkns@mit.edu">hwkns@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex;">
I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "that hasn't happene=
d yet."=A0 As far as I know, that means it probably won't take eff=
ect next year, but it's not off the table by any means.<br><br>-hwkns<d=
iv>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">thilk=
@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex">
Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductions in the Task Force repo=
rt? =A0If Bennie said they weren't happening, that would be great news.=
=A0I was not able to attend that meeting. =A0Please discuss further.<div><=
br>
</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ted</div><div><div></div><div><div><br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@=
mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
What financial thing, what claims, what won't happen?<br><br>-hwkns<div=
><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at =
2:09 AM, Paul Youchak <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:youchakp@mit.=
edu" target=3D"_blank">youchakp@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">I was under the impress=
ion we had the whole financial thing cleared up during the last Senate Meet=
ing. =A0Did Bennie not say those claims are false and it will not happen?<b=
r>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Alexandra Jordan wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Senate,<br>
<br>
I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours or so to go check out=
the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment on someone else's wh=
acky solutions.<br>
<br>
This is important to ALL of your constituencies, whether the decisions that=
come out of HDAG impact them directly or not. As representatives of your l=
iving groups and the student body at large, you have a responsibility to ge=
t involved with this issue--especially when the admin makes it so easy to p=
ut your ideas out there. <br>
I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT because you&=
#39;re incapable of independent thought, so please go do your jobs and tell=
HDAG what students want. <br>
<br>
Alex Jordan<br>
<br>
<br>
On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:<br>
<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Addressed to the list in general:<br>
<jargon><br></div>
Someone <<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You" target=3D"_blank">=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You</a>> should make a JS-enabled frameset =
and host it on the UA website if the staff for the site is not too excited =
about adding a ranking system; essentially you have an upper frame (10% of =
the screen) with stars/rating system, the lower frame (90%) shows the IdeaB=
ank site. You should always be able to find the current url of the lower fr=
ame and reading the links on that page gives you the user that's curren=
tly logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store the ratings i=
n a database and you've got yourself some statistics. The only issue wo=
uld be advertising the site so that people can use it.<div>
<br>
</jargon><br>
Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last resort to be weighed agai=
nst the potential political fallout. Also, I don't actually have the ti=
me to do this.<br>
Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.<br>
<br></div>
*geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link <<a href=3D"https://id=
eabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-com=
mittee-recommendations" target=3D"_blank">https://ideabank-housedining.mit.=
edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-committee-recommendations<=
/a>>] (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-forum about his=
"idea" and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to take a look. I=
f there was ever an appropriate use for a (house)-forum list... this is it.=
<div>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Jont=E9 Craighead<br>
Concerned Undergrad from Next House<br>
<br>
On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:<br>
<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
RE Rating System. =A0From Tom Gearty: "<br>
I will email IS&T to find out and let you know as soon as I hear back.&=
quot;<br>
<br>
I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by then.<=
br>
<br></div><div>
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <<a href=3D"mailto:amcrae@m=
it.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:a=
mcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Stars are for kirby and mario. =A0On the other hand, why they don't hav=
e<br>
master chiefs, I have no idea.<br>
<br>
-"you are the weakest link" *splat*<br>
<br></div><div>
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<br>
It's been out for a matter of hours. =A0Don't worry, my ideas will =
make it<br>
up there soon. =A0I also plan on making sure everything relevant from the D=
PC<br>
report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparently want to avoid<=
br>
mentioning it.<br>
<br>
I'm with Paul - this is the same site they used for the task force repo=
rt<br>
(why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?), and those idea=
s<br>
could be rated with 1-5 stars. =A0That seems to me like a very important<br=
>
feature that is currently missing.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
<br>
<br>
<br></div><div>
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <<a href=3D"mailto:bockeli=
e@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mai=
lto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:=
<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<br>
For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea bank is open<br>
and I don't see many of your ideas. =A0Do what you want outside HDAG,<b=
r>
but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to the<br>
committee as well....<br>
<br>
[<a href=3D"http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas</a>]<br>
<br>
<br></div><div>
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
I want to thank those of you who contributed to the discussion on this<br>
tonight. =A0I was surprised at how many senators just didn't care. =A0Y=
ou<br>
guys<br>
were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than you were about<br>
student engagement. =A0Maybe you should consider joining Finboard instead<b=
r>
of<br>
Senate next time around.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
<br>
<br>
<br></div><div>
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<br>
Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
<br></div><div><div></div><div>
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Hi Senate,<br>
<br>
A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the effect of, "I<=
br>
agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anything we can do at<br>
this<br>
point?" =A0Maybe there is. =A0While Colombo just wants this to be over=
, I<br>
think<br>
the higher level administration actually wants to get it right. =A0If<br>
we give<br>
them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.<br>
<br>
We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that can actually<br>
incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by the second<br>
week of<br>
May. =A0I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I encourage<br=
>
you to<br>
reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or come up with your<br>
own<br>
idea.<br>
<br>
1. Take minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetings and make<br>
the<br>
minutes public.<br>
2. Involve ALL undergrads. =A0This change affects everyone, and<br>
everyone<br>
has ideas. =A0Make a public moira list for discussion, monitor the list<br>
frequently, and respond to questions and concerns raised by students.<br>
3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW. =A0Not by the end of the week, not as soon<br>
as<br>
you can make it look as pretty as you want it to. =A0Now.<br>
4. By April 16, publish a document that includes all positively-rated<br>
ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each idea<br>
explaining<br>
whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.<br>
5. Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the Idea Bank to<br>
which they apply, and let student input continue.<br>
6. By April 30, publish a document that includes all positively-rated<br>
ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each new idea<br>
explaining<br>
whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, and with<br>
detailed<br>
responses to any feedback on old ideas.<br>
7. By May 14, publish a document that outlines the new dining plan<br>
and<br>
includes a summary of student input on each topic and the reasoning<br>
behind<br>
the choice that was ultimately made.<br>
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-hwkns<br>
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Alexandra Jordan<br>
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MIT 2011<br>
Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science<br>
Political Science<br>
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