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Re: Dining Idea Bank

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Youchak)
Thu Apr 8 02:17:09 2010

Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 02:17:05 -0400
From: Paul Youchak <youchakp@MIT.EDU>
To: Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu>
CC: hwkns@mit.edu, Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>,
        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jont=E9_Craighead?= <jontec@mit.edu>,
        Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu>, Austen W McRae <amcrae@mit.edu>,
        UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <i2x6ed15f041004072315vd469a5f5hfebce455aeb022b2@mail.gmail.com>

Again, this was somewhat of a question.  I thought I heard something on 
those lines but was not sure.



Ted Hilk wrote:
> So according to Bennie that isn't happening?
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu 
> <mailto:youchakp@mit.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Sorry, the financial aid issue, the reduction for students not
>     involved in the meals plans.  I may be wrong, just asking a question.
>
>     Paul
>
>     Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>
>         What financial thing, what claims, what won't happen?
>
>         -hwkns
>
>         On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu
>         <mailto:youchakp@mit.edu> <mailto:youchakp@mit.edu
>         <mailto:youchakp@mit.edu>>> wrote:
>
>            I was under the impression we had the whole financial thing
>            cleared up during the last Senate Meeting.  Did Bennie not say
>            those claims are false and it will not happen?
>
>            Paul
>
>            Alexandra Jordan wrote:
>
>                Senate,
>
>                I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours
>         or so to
>                go check out the idea bank, even if it's simply to
>         comment on
>                someone else's whacky solutions.
>
>                This is important to ALL of your constituencies,
>         whether the
>                decisions that come out of HDAG impact them directly or
>         not.
>                As representatives of your living groups and the
>         student body
>                at large, you have a responsibility to get involved
>         with this
>                issue--especially when the admin makes it so easy to
>         put your
>                ideas out there.
>                I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT
>                because you're incapable of independent thought, so
>         please go
>                do your jobs and tell HDAG what students want.
>
>                Alex Jordan
>
>
>                On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jonté Craighead wrote:
>
>                    Addressed to the list in general:
>                    <jargon>
>                    Someone <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You> should
>         make a
>                    JS-enabled frameset and host it on the UA website
>         if the
>                    staff for the site is not too excited about adding a
>                    ranking system; essentially you have an upper frame
>         (10%
>                    of the screen) with stars/rating system, the lower
>         frame
>                    (90%) shows the IdeaBank site. You should always be
>         able
>                    to find the current url of the lower frame and
>         reading the
>                    links on that page gives you the user that's currently
>                    logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store the
>                    ratings in a database and you've got yourself some
>                    statistics. The only issue would be advertising the
>         site
>                    so that people can use it.
>
>                    </jargon>
>                    Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last
>         resort
>                    to be weighed against the potential political fallout.
>                    Also, I don't actually have the time to do this.
>                    Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.
>
>                    *geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link
>                  
>          <https://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-committee-recommendations>]
>                    (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed
>         next-forum
>                    about his "idea" and the IdeaBank itself,
>         encouraging us
>                    to take a look. If there was ever an appropriate
>         use for a
>                    (house)-forum list... this is it.
>
>
>                    Thanks,
>                    Jonté Craighead
>                    Concerned Undergrad from Next House
>
>                    On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:
>
>                        RE Rating System.  From Tom Gearty: "
>                        I will email IS&T to find out and let you know
>         as soon
>                        as I hear back."
>
>                        I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard
>                        anything by then.
>
>                        On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae
>                        <amcrae@mit.edu <mailto:amcrae@mit.edu>
>         <mailto:amcrae@mit.edu <mailto:amcrae@mit.edu>>
>                        <mailto:amcrae@mit.edu <mailto:amcrae@mit.edu>
>         <mailto:amcrae@mit.edu <mailto:amcrae@mit.edu>>>> wrote:
>
>                            Stars are for kirby and mario.  On the
>         other hand,
>                            why they don't have
>                            master chiefs, I have no idea.
>
>                            -"you are the weakest link" *splat*
>
>                            On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins
>                            <hwkns@mit.edu <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>>
>                            <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu> <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>>>> wrote:
>
>
>                                It's been out for a matter of hours.  Don't
>                                worry, my ideas will make it
>                                up there soon.  I also plan on making sure
>                                everything relevant from the DPC
>                                report makes it on there in idea form,
>         since
>                                they apparently want to avoid
>                                mentioning it.
>
>                                I'm with Paul - this is the same site they
>                                used for the task force report
>                                (why the eff did it take so long to get
>         in up
>                                and running?), and those ideas
>                                could be rated with 1-5 stars.  That
>         seems to
>                                me like a very important
>                                feature that is currently missing.
>
>                                -hwkns
>
>
>
>                                On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam
>         Bockelie
>                                <bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu> <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>                                <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>
>
>                                <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>>> wrote:
>
>
>                                    For those of you who did have strong
>                                    opinions...the idea bank is open
>                                    and I don't see many of your ideas.  Do
>                                    what you want outside HDAG,
>                                    but it doesn't make sense to not use an
>                                    official input to the
>                                    committee as well....
>
>                                  
>          [http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas]
>
>
>                                    On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel
>                                    Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>
>                                    <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>>
>                                    <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>
>
>                                    <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>>>> wrote:
>
>                                        I want to thank those of you who
>                                        contributed to the discussion
>         on this
>                                        tonight.  I was surprised at
>         how many
>                                        senators just didn't care.  You
>                                        guys
>                                        were more vocal about the MIT EMS
>                                        money last week than you were about
>                                        student engagement.  Maybe you
>         should
>                                        consider joining Finboard instead
>                                        of
>                                        Senate next time around.
>
>                                        -hwkns
>
>
>
>                                        On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM,
>         Daniel
>                                        Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>
>                                        <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>>
>                                        <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>
>
>                                        <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>>>> wrote:
>
>
>                                            Attached is a bill, in case we
>                                            want to pass it tonight.
>
>                                            -hwkns
>
>                                            On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM,
>                                            Daniel Hawkins
>         <hwkns@mit.edu <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>
>                                            <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>>
>                                            <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>
>
>                                            <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu
>         <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>>>> wrote:
>
>
>                                                Hi Senate,
>
>                                                A lot of you have
>         e-mailed me
>                                                and said something to the
>                                                effect of, "I
>                                                agree, this is totally
>         screwed
>                                                up, but is there
>         anything we
>                                                can do at
>                                                this
>                                                point?"  Maybe there is.
>                                                 While Colombo just
>         wants this
>                                                to be over, I
>                                                think
>                                                the higher level
>                                                administration actually
>         wants
>                                                to get it right.  If
>                                                we give
>                                                them a plan that's doable,
>                                                they may hold DSL to it.
>
>                                                We need to brainstorm
>         to see
>                                                if there is a solution that
>                                                can actually
>                                                incorporate student
>         input AND
>                                                reach a final decision
>         by the
>                                                second
>                                                week of
>                                                May.  I've outlined an idea
>                                                below that might work,
>         and I
>                                                encourage
>                                                you to
>                                                reply-all and tell me
>         what you
>                                                think about it, or come up
>                                                with your
>                                                own
>                                                idea.
>
>                                                1. Take minutes (not
>                                                summaries, minutes) at HDAG
>                                                meetings and make
>                                                the
>                                                minutes public.
>                                                2. Involve ALL undergrads.
>                                                 This change affects
>         everyone, and
>                                                everyone
>                                                has ideas.  Make a public
>                                                moira list for discussion,
>                                                monitor the list
>                                                frequently, and respond to
>                                                questions and concerns
>         raised
>                                                by students.
>                                                3. Set up the Idea Bank
>         NOW.
>                                                 Not by the end of the
>         week,
>                                                not as soon
>                                                as
>                                                you can make it look as
>         pretty
>                                                as you want it to.  Now.
>                                                4. By April 16, publish a
>                                                document that includes all
>                                                positively-rated
>                                                ideas from the Idea
>         Bank, with
>                                                detailed comments on
>         each idea
>                                                explaining
>                                                whether you plan to
>         implement
>                                                it and why or why not.
>                                                5. Add the detailed
>         comments
>                                                from #4 to the ideas in the
>                                                Idea Bank to
>                                                which they apply, and let
>                                                student input continue.
>                                                6. By April 30, publish a
>                                                document that includes all
>                                                positively-rated
>                                                ideas from the Idea
>         Bank, with
>                                                detailed comments on
>         each new idea
>                                                explaining
>                                                whether you plan to
>         implement
>                                                it and why or why not,
>         and with
>                                                detailed
>                                                responses to any
>         feedback on
>                                                old ideas.
>                                                7. By May 14, publish a
>                                                document that outlines
>         the new
>                                                dining plan
>                                                and
>                                                includes a summary of
>         student
>                                                input on each topic and the
>                                                reasoning
>                                                behind
>                                                the choice that was
>         ultimately
>                                                made.
>
>                                                -hwkns
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                                    --
>                                    Adam Bockelie
>                                    801.209.7233
>                                    <bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>
>                                    <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>                                    <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>
>
>                                    <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>>>
>
>
>                                    Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>                                    Department of Civil and Environmental
>                                    Engineering
>                                    Class of 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                        --                 Adam Bockelie
>                        801.209.7233
>                        <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>                        <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu> <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu
>         <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>>>
>
>
>
>                        Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>                        Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>                        Class of 2011
>
>
>
>                __________________________________
>                Alexandra Jordan
>
>                MIT 2011
>                Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
>                Political Science
>
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>                <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu>
>         <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu>>>
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Theodore Hilk
> MIT '13 | thilk@mit.edu <mailto:thilk@mit.edu> | 913.375.6503
> Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
> Sloan School of Management

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