[514] in UA Senate
Re: Agenda
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Jenks)
Sun Apr 4 20:08:00 2010
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Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:07:57 -0400
From: Tim Jenks <trjenks@gmail.com>
To: Tim Stumbaugh <stum@mit.edu>
Cc: Maggie Delano <maggied@mit.edu>, ua-senate@mit.edu
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What if we had this change include "interim" senator? We could appoint an
interim senator so their constituency is represented. And then in the Best
Practices document, we can strongly suggest that once the President appoints
an interim senator, the the Speaker/UAP talks to the constituency president,
to see if this new appointment will work.
--Tim
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Tim Stumbaugh <stum@mit.edu> wrote:
> I mean, they're all trying to codify things that are undefined right
> now. I agree that some of them are more controversial, but the intent
> is the same.
>
> What should we do if there is no Sorority senator for 6 weeks because
> Panhel is incompetent?
>
> On 4/4/10, Maggie Delano <maggied@mit.edu> wrote:
> > A few comments on 41 UAS 13.2:
> >
> > - First of all, I don't think this is strictly a by-laws maintenance
> bill. I
> > think some of the suggested changes are controversial enough that they
> > shouldn't all be lumped into one bill.
> >
> > - I'm specifically concerned with the first That statement. I don't think
> > the UA President or Senate Officers should have the ability to appoint a
> > Senator, even with Senate approval. I think it would be better to have a
> > vacant seat rather than have a new Senator appointed by someone who is
> not
> > from the Senator's constituency. I understand that this provision is only
> > valid after 2 full Senate meetings, but what happens if e.g. the
> president
> > is not satisfied with any of the Senate applicants? I'd rather have an
> empty
> > senate seat, even in the (unlikely) case of completely gross negligence
> on
> > the part of a constituency president. Not naming a new Senator in two
> weeks
> > is also, in my opinion, a poor judgment of negligence, as suggested by my
> > above example. It is the constituency's responsibility to select their
> > representatives, and I think it would be more appropriate to leave a seat
> > empty than for someone else to appoint a new Senator.
> >
> > -Maggie
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Tim Stumbaugh <ua-speaker@mit.edu>
> > Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:16 PM
> > Subject: Agenda
> > To: UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
> >
> >
> > Hey guys,
> > I have been working on a couple of bills, so I'm sorry this took so long.
> > The agenda is at
> http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/agendas/2010-04-05.pdf.
> > The relevant legislation should be linked correctly. If I messed it up,
> > please let me know.
> >
> > My bills are sort of done. I'll continue to be updating them before the
> > meeting tomorrow.
> >
> > See you tomorrow-
> > --
> > -Tim Stumbaugh '12
> > MIT Undergraduate Association Senate Speaker
> >
>
>
> --
> -Tim
> "There is no emotion, there is peace."
>
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What if we had this change include "interim" senator?=A0 We could=
appoint an interim senator so their constituency is represented.=A0 And th=
en in the Best Practices document, we can strongly suggest that once the Pr=
esident appoints an interim senator, the the Speaker/UAP talks to the const=
ituency president, to see if this new appointment will work.<br>
<br>--Tim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM,=
Tim Stumbaugh <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:stum@mit.edu" target=
=3D"_blank">stum@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I mean, they'=
re all trying to codify things that are undefined right<br>
now. I agree that some of them are more controversial, but the intent<br>
is the same.<br>
<br>
What should we do if there is no Sorority senator for 6 weeks because<br>
Panhel is incompetent?<br>
<div><div></div><div><br>
On 4/4/10, Maggie Delano <<a href=3D"mailto:maggied@mit.edu" target=3D"_=
blank">maggied@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> A few comments on 41 UAS 13.2:<br>
><br>
> - First of all, I don't think this is strictly a by-laws maintenan=
ce bill. I<br>
> think some of the suggested changes are controversial enough that they=
<br>
> shouldn't all be lumped into one bill.<br>
><br>
> - I'm specifically concerned with the first That statement. I don&=
#39;t think<br>
> the UA President or Senate Officers should have the ability to appoint=
a<br>
> Senator, even with Senate approval. I think it would be better to have=
a<br>
> vacant seat rather than have a new Senator appointed by someone who is=
not<br>
> from the Senator's constituency. I understand that this provision =
is only<br>
> valid after 2 full Senate meetings, but what happens if e.g. the presi=
dent<br>
> is not satisfied with any of the Senate applicants? I'd rather hav=
e an empty<br>
> senate seat, even in the (unlikely) case of completely gross negligenc=
e on<br>
> the part of a constituency president. Not naming a new Senator in two =
weeks<br>
> is also, in my opinion, a poor judgment of negligence, as suggested by=
my<br>
> above example. It is the constituency's responsibility to select t=
heir<br>
> representatives, and I think it would be more appropriate to leave a s=
eat<br>
> empty than for someone else to appoint a new Senator.<br>
><br>
> -Maggie<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> From: Tim Stumbaugh <<a href=3D"mailto:ua-speaker@mit.edu" target=
=3D"_blank">ua-speaker@mit.edu</a>><br>
> Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:16 PM<br>
> Subject: Agenda<br>
> To: UA Senate <<a href=3D"mailto:ua-senate@mit.edu" target=3D"_blan=
k">ua-senate@mit.edu</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hey guys,<br>
> I have been working on a couple of bills, so I'm sorry this took s=
o long.<br>
> The agenda is at <a href=3D"http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/agendas=
/2010-04-05.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/agend=
as/2010-04-05.pdf</a>.<br>
> The relevant legislation should be linked correctly. If I messed it up=
,<br>
> please let me know.<br>
><br>
> My bills are sort of done. I'll continue to be updating them befor=
e the<br>
> meeting tomorrow.<br>
><br>
> See you tomorrow-<br>
> --<br>
> -Tim Stumbaugh '12<br>
> MIT Undergraduate Association Senate Speaker<br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
-Tim<br>
"There is no emotion, there is peace."<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>
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