[180] in UA Senate
Re: 41UAS2.3: Bill to Authorize the Treasurer to Reallocate Money to Student Groups
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sammi Wyman)
Tue Oct 20 17:10:43 2009
Cc: Alex Dehnert <adehnert@mit.edu>, UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
From: Sammi Wyman <swyman@MIT.EDU>
To: Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <D3251F88-F815-4E7A-97A0-1257ACE4ACD2@mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:10:36 -0400
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1. Alex (jordan), that's not true- senate must be informed, but they
don't need to approve it. Do you mean that they should have approval?
2. I think we SHOULD be changing the budget if this reallocation is
happening. I don't like the idea of having a published budget with
different amounts in it than have been spent. If the budget says
FinBoard can allocate 100,000 dollars, they shouldn't allocate more
than that. If we move this unused money to a FinBoard allocation
pool, it needs to be a change in the budget. I know that these changes
aren't really sneaky or malicious but it seems wrong to do something
different than what the budget says.
On Oct 20, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Alexandra Jordan wrote:
> I sort of already addressed this with Paul's comments earlier, but
> my MAIN CONCERN is that Senate approved a budget intending that
> SPECIFIC PROJECTS be completed. If the committee and Chair no longer
> see those projects as viable or worthwhile, then Senate should BE
> INFORMED in a formal manner, in which discussion takes place. With
> the current bill, the Chair and Treasurer could change the planned
> impact of the committee without ever informing Senate. That is why I
> don't think the Chair and Treasurer should be able to change line
> items without at least presenting the changes to Senate, if no
> seeking the approval of Senate.
>
> Alex
>
> On Oct 20, 2009, at 2:57 AM, Alex Dehnert wrote:
>
>> Alexandra Jordan wrote:
>>> Hi Senators.
>>> I would like to submit two points for you to consider before we
>>> discuss this bill at the next meeting:
>>> 1. Approving this bill would allow Committee Chairs and the
>>> Treasurer to completely eliminate certain line items from the
>>> budget. If the Senate approves $800 to Committee A for a project,
>>> then that means Senate has placed value in this project and
>>> expects it to at least be attempted, if not completed. I believe
>>> that this possibility, of eliminating line items for entire
>>> projects, is distinct from simply transferring over excess funds
>>> from completed projects. I do not think that two people should be
>>> able to change the budget in this way without the approval of
>>> Senate.
>>
>> In my opinion, if the committee chair doesn't intend to complete
>> the project, then they probably won't --- forcing them to hold on
>> to the money seems unlikely to change anything. Between that and
>> the explicitness with which overruling is now allowed, I don't
>> really think any action is needed here.
>>
>> ~~Alex
>
> __________________________________
> Alexandra Jordan
>
> MIT 2011
> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
> Political Science
>
> amjordan@mit.edu
> 916.813.7740
>
>
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