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Re: Final report of the FPRC?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Maggie Delano)
Sun Mar 7 14:02:51 2010

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From: Maggie Delano <maggied@MIT.EDU>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:02:28 -0500
To: "Liz A. Denys" <lizdenys@mit.edu>
Cc: Mike Bennie <mbennie@mit.edu>, Alex Dehnert <adehnert@mit.edu>,
        "ua-fprc@mit.edu" <ua-fprc@mit.edu>

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The only section I'm a little confused about is the mailing list section.
When I first read it, it was not clear that this was referring to the use of
mailing lists as a tool for fund raising. I think this should be made
clearer because I don't think FPRC should otherwise have jurisdiction over
creating policy for mailing list usage.

-Maggie



On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Liz A. Denys <lizdenys@mit.edu> wrote:

> I just finished reading it, and I agree with Bennie.
>
> Thanks Alex!
>
>
> Mike Bennie wrote:
>
>> I think Rachel and Catherine caught a good deal of the minor issues I had
>> with the document. I approve of the document in its current form (although I
>> think Senate might want some more clarification around 2.4).
>>
>> As we wrap up the work of the FPRC, I just want to thank the committee
>> members that met over the summer and during the term to assemble what is
>> truly a definite knowledge of the financial policy of the UA. This is a
>> solid piece of work and easily the most significant internal policy work
>> accomplished this year.
>>
>> I also want to single out Alex for going above and beyond the line of duty
>> to make this happen. Alex, thanks for undertaking such a big project and
>> producing a remarkable report.
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> Alex Dehnert wrote:
>>
>>> I'd still love to hear more replies.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 03/05/2010 11:06 PM, Alex Dehnert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>   I've (finally) performed what I hope is the final editing pass of the
>>>> FPRC report. It's online at
>>>> http://web.mit.edu/ua/committee/fprc/report/4th/report.pdf. I'll be
>>>> sending it out to the Senate in about an hour, and I think they'll want to
>>>> approve it at the Monday meeting. If you have final comments before either
>>>> of those, I'd be open to hearing them.
>>>>
>>>> It would be nice if what Senate approved was formally the report of the
>>>> FPRC, but I don't feel comfortable saying that without something resembling
>>>> a vote. There are few changes (some stuff from SAO, some proofreading, not
>>>> much else, I think --- you can check the git repo for details) since the
>>>> drafts were approved way back in ~August, so hopefully this won't be a
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I'd appreciate hearing back by Sunday at 1PM with one of:
>>>> 1) "Approve" (hopefully I'll get a lot of these...)
>>>> 2) "Reject"
>>>> 3) "I need more time" ("I'm hosed right now, but I'd like to take a
>>>> closer look" --- please indicate when you can take such a closer look)
>>>> 4) "Abstain" (roughly "I don't care anymore")
>>>>
>>>> You can also recommend changes --- if you do, please send them to the
>>>> whole list, not just me, so that others can object.
>>>>
>>>> However, I'm not really open to major changes --- as I wrote in
>>>> http://diswww.mit.edu/charon/ua-fprc/55:
>>>>  > If we get out of the meeting without any controversial changes to a
>>>>  > document, that document will be closed and will not be reopened at a
>>>>  > meeting without a very good reason and several people indicating
>>>> their
>>>>  > support (via email, personal discussion with me, etc.).
>>>>
>>>> I'm also not going to worry about "quorum" --- if somebody can't give
>>>> one of the four responses listed above by Sunday at 1PM, I'm going to
>>>> interpret that as not wanting to be on the committee any more or something.
>>>>
>>>> ~~Alex
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Liz A. Denys
> lizdenys@mit.edu
>

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The only section I&#39;m a little confused about is the mailing list sectio=
n. When I first read it, it was not clear that this was referring to the us=
e of mailing lists as a tool for fund raising. I think this should be made =
clearer because I don&#39;t think FPRC should otherwise have jurisdiction o=
ver creating policy for mailing list usage.<br>

<br clear=3D"all">-Maggie<br><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Liz A. D=
enys <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lizdenys@mit.edu">lizdenys@mit=
.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bo=
rder-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding=
-left: 1ex;">

I just finished reading it, and I agree with Bennie.<br>
<br>
Thanks Alex!<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
Mike Bennie wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I think Rachel and Catherine caught a good deal of the minor issues I had w=
ith the document. I approve of the document in its current form (although I=
 think Senate might want some more clarification around 2.4).<br>
<br>
As we wrap up the work of the FPRC, I just want to thank the committee memb=
ers that met over the summer and during the term to assemble what is truly =
a definite knowledge of the financial policy of the UA. This is a solid pie=
ce of work and easily the most significant internal policy work accomplishe=
d this year.<br>


<br>
I also want to single out Alex for going above and beyond the line of duty =
to make this happen. Alex, thanks for undertaking such a big project and pr=
oducing a remarkable report.<br>
<br>
-Mike<br>
<br>
Alex Dehnert wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I&#39;d still love to hear more replies.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Alex<br>
<br>
On 03/05/2010 11:06 PM, Alex Dehnert wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi all,<br>
 =A0 I&#39;ve (finally) performed what I hope is the final editing pass of =
the FPRC report. It&#39;s online at <a href=3D"http://web.mit.edu/ua/commit=
tee/fprc/report/4th/report.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://web.mit.edu/ua/com=
mittee/fprc/report/4th/report.pdf</a>. I&#39;ll be sending it out to the Se=
nate in about an hour, and I think they&#39;ll want to approve it at the Mo=
nday meeting. If you have final comments before either of those, I&#39;d be=
 open to hearing them.<br>


<br>
It would be nice if what Senate approved was formally the report of the FPR=
C, but I don&#39;t feel comfortable saying that without something resemblin=
g a vote. There are few changes (some stuff from SAO, some proofreading, no=
t much else, I think --- you can check the git repo for details) since the =
drafts were approved way back in ~August, so hopefully this won&#39;t be a =
problem.<br>


<br>
Anyway, I&#39;d appreciate hearing back by Sunday at 1PM with one of:<br>
1) &quot;Approve&quot; (hopefully I&#39;ll get a lot of these...)<br>
2) &quot;Reject&quot;<br>
3) &quot;I need more time&quot; (&quot;I&#39;m hosed right now, but I&#39;d=
 like to take a closer look&quot; --- please indicate when you can take suc=
h a closer look)<br>
4) &quot;Abstain&quot; (roughly &quot;I don&#39;t care anymore&quot;)<br>
<br>
You can also recommend changes --- if you do, please send them to the whole=
 list, not just me, so that others can object.<br>
<br>
However, I&#39;m not really open to major changes --- as I wrote in <a href=
=3D"http://diswww.mit.edu/charon/ua-fprc/55" target=3D"_blank">http://disww=
w.mit.edu/charon/ua-fprc/55</a>:<br>
=A0&gt; If we get out of the meeting without any controversial changes to a=
<br>
=A0&gt; document, that document will be closed and will not be reopened at =
a<br>
=A0&gt; meeting without a very good reason and several people indicating th=
eir<br>
=A0&gt; support (via email, personal discussion with me, etc.).<br>
<br>
I&#39;m also not going to worry about &quot;quorum&quot; --- if somebody ca=
n&#39;t give one of the four responses listed above by Sunday at 1PM, I&#39=
;m going to interpret that as not wanting to be on the committee any more o=
r something.<br>


<br>
~~Alex<br>
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-- <br>
Liz A. Denys<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:lizdenys@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">lizdenys@mit.edu</a><=
br>
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