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Re: Student Faculty Dinners

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ankit J Gordhandas)
Wed Apr 28 17:38:32 2010

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:38:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ankit J Gordhandas <ankitg@MIT.EDU>
To: David Chang <dchang@MIT.EDU>
cc: Everson Auguste <evedizzy@MIT.EDU>, Grant A Robinson <grantrob@MIT.EDU>,
        Vrajesh Modi and Sammi Wyman <wedothings@MIT.EDU>,
        Alexander W Dehnert <adehnert@MIT.EDU>,
        scep chairs <ua-scep-chairs@MIT.EDU>, ua-treasurer@MIT.EDU,
        Quentin Smith <quentin@MIT.EDU>, ua-exec@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <70CD6FB6-3404-4673-B663-C5D2E59FE02E@mit.edu>

I like this.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, David Chang wrote:

> Bennie suggests that those who have emailed us up till now, we give $20 per 
> person. If we need to pull from senate or exec discretionary, so be it. Also, 
> sao accounts are allowed to go negative, so we'll be okay.
>
> Estimated cost: ~$1000 5 people, 10 groups
>
> Grant and Everson. You can email out to those who have emailed us now. I'm 
> comfortable moving forward with this. I suppose we will have to create the 
> confirmation emails by hand. just ask them who, usernames etc and make up the 
> email form.
>
> dc
>
> On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:06 AM, David Chang wrote:
>
>> Grant and Everson,
>> 
>> Now that we have Alex onboard, as soon as Vrajesh or Sammi say okay, let 
>> the 5-10 groups that have emailed us personally to let them know that we 
>> thank them for their interest, let them know that we have allocated all the 
>> funds. However, since they have already set up a dinner with their 
>> professor, we will happily subsidize the cost of their professor's meal, up 
>> to $25, in hopes that we can still makes these hard worked plans continue.
>> 
>> Expected cost: <500 seems pretty conservative. Thats an additional 20 
>> groups, which I very much doubt. No real harm done to next year's budget.
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:52 PM, Alexander W Dehnert wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, David Chang wrote:
>>>> I'd like to move forward with the following, if possible:
>>>> 
>>> [...]
>>> 
>>>> -Offer to subsidize their professors meal. ie $25 per group.
>>> [...]
>>>> 
>>>> I do recognize that we do need to follow our allotted budget and plan to 
>>>> be fiscally responsible by taking from next years budget. Once this term 
>>>> has finished, I'd also be looking to update Senate on how we handled this 
>>>> year as well as better predictions and budget requests if our predictions 
>>>> warrant.
>>> 
>>> Honestly, the way I'd love to handle this is "build up a decent sized 
>>> reserve (or get permission to borrow against next year)", set some vaguely 
>>> reasonable overallocation amount, and be okay with screwing up by ~$2K a 
>>> year as long as we average $0 over the long haul.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On the other hand, Student Faculty Dinners is a very positive program in 
>>>> the eyes of both professors and students and I'l like to encourage 
>>>> student participation by not leaving a bad taste in their mouths.
>>>> 
>>>> It gives them a palatable alternative, since many have already asked 
>>>> their professors and backing out would be most unprofessional. Offering 
>>>> to pay for the professors meal allows students to continue with their 
>>>> plans without having it be a big financial drain as $20-25 per person 
>>>> isn't an unreasonable normal outing for students.
>>>> 
>>>> While unscientific, we can also figure out if students want a free meal 
>>>> or to actually go talk with professors.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm curious about the technical feasibility and budgetary issues of such 
>>>> a plan
>>>> - In terms of reimbursement, how much manual labor is involved? How much 
>>>> manpower would SCEP need to provide to make this reasonable?
>>> 
>>> This should be fine. When people email, send them some email to print out 
>>> and attach to their receipt. I can deal from there.
>>> 
>>>> - In terms of budget, since we get next years funding in the summer, is 
>>>> there an issue?
>>> 
>>> *shrug* I think going over budget a bit is fine. I bet the people who gave 
>>> us the money won't notice if we went into debt (though ping Jed Wartman or 
>>> somebody else in SAO (normally I'd say Kerri, but I think she's away this 
>>> week) and seeing if we can borrow a little against the program's future 
>>> would be a good plan).
>>> 
>>> ~~Alex
>>>> 
>>>> David Chang
>> 
>

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