[1765] in UA Exec
Re: Staplers in Athena Clusters
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jacob Hurwitz)
Mon Nov 11 20:00:12 2013
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From: Jacob Hurwitz <jhurwitz@MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:59:47 -0500
To: Turner Bohlen <turnerbohlen@gmail.com>
Cc: Cory Hernandez <cdh2014@mit.edu>, Leonid Grinberg <leonidg@mit.edu>,
"ua-exec@mit.edu" <ua-exec@mit.edu>,
"Benjamin I. Shaibu" <bshaibu@mit.edu>
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Hi all,
As the UA rep to ISTAB (the IS&T Advisory Board), I'd love to be kept in
the loop about this project.
My understanding of what's happened in the past is: In Fall 2011, the UA VP
for Resource Development (who I think at the time might have been Ben
Shaibu, CCed on this email) asked IS&T for permission to pilot staplers in
3 Athena clusters. The agreement was that IS&T gave the UA permission to
place staplers in the clusters, and in return, the UA had to refill the
staplers on a regular basis and write a report for IS&T at the end of the
pilot. If the report indicated success, IS&T might then take over the
project and pay for, maintain, and refill staplers in all Athena clusters
across campus.
I'm not sure how the pilot turned out, but what I've heard anecdotally is
that for whatever reason (possibly turnover in the UA?), the staplers
stopped being refilled by the UA, and nobody wrote a report for IS&T. Since
there was no report, IS&T did not pursue the project further.
Turner, if you'd like to repeat a similar pilot, I would suggest talking to
Jon (as Leonid already advised) and working out a similar agreement, in
which IS&T agrees to take over the project if the UA pilot is a success. I
think you should also invest more time in learning about what didn't go so
well with the 2011 pilot so that we can avoid making the same mistakes.
-Jacob
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Turner Bohlen <turnerbohlen@gmail.com>wrote:
> Yup. They were not responsible for these three as far as I know.
>
> Turner Bohlen
> www.turnerbohlen.com
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Cory Hernandez <cdh2014@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> Have you talked to last year's projects chairs? I remember Brendan was
>> talking about staplers in clusters at some point last year...
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Turner Bohlen <turnerbohlen@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I've been in touch with him and he thought it was UA, so no big help
>>> there. Thanks, though!
>>>
>>> Turner Bohlen
>>> www.turnerbohlen.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Leonid Grinberg <leonidg@mit.edu>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do not but I'd email jdreed@mit.edu. He almost certainly knows. (He
>>>> works for IS&T and worked with me on a bunch of stuff when I was Tech
>>>> Committee chair.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Turner Bohlen <turnerbohlen@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all -
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm moving forward to put staplers in all of the athena clusters. As
>>>>> of right now, three athena clusters already have staplers, but no one seems
>>>>> to know who put them there. If you happen to know how those staplers ended
>>>>> up being installed please shoot me an email! Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Turner Bohlen
>>>>> www.turnerbohlen.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>As the UA rep to ISTAB (the IS&=
amp;T Advisory Board), I'd love to be kept in the loop about this proje=
ct.</div><div><br></div><div>My understanding of what's happened in the=
past is: In Fall 2011, the UA VP for Resource Development (who I think at =
the time might have been Ben Shaibu, CCed on this email) asked IS&T for=
permission to pilot staplers in 3 Athena clusters. The agreement was that =
IS&T gave the UA permission to place staplers in the clusters, and in r=
eturn, the UA had to refill the staplers on a regular basis and write a rep=
ort for IS&T at the end of the pilot. If the report indicated success, =
IS&T might then take over the project and pay for, maintain, and refill=
staplers in all Athena clusters across campus.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm not sure how the pilot turned out, but what I&#=
39;ve heard anecdotally is that for whatever reason (possibly turnover in t=
he UA?), the staplers stopped being refilled by the UA, and nobody wrote a =
report for IS&T. Since there was no report, IS&T did not pursue the=
project further.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Turner, if you'd like to repeat a similar pilot, I =
would suggest talking to Jon (as Leonid already advised) and working out a =
similar agreement, in which IS&T agrees to take over the project if the=
UA pilot is a success. I think you should also invest more time in learnin=
g about what didn't go so well with the 2011 pilot so that we can avoid=
making the same mistakes.</div>
<div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">-Jacob</div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Turne=
r Bohlen <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:turnerbohlen@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">turnerbohlen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Yup. They were not responsi=
ble for these three as far as I know.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span=
class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all">
<div>Turner Bohlen<br><div><a href=3D"http://www.turnerbohlen.com" target=
=3D"_blank">www.turnerbohlen.com</a></div>
</div></font></span><div><div class=3D"h5">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Cory He=
rnandez <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:cdh2014@mit.edu" target=3D"=
_blank">cdh2014@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Have you talked to last year's projects chairs? I reme=
mber Brendan was talking about staplers in clusters at some point last year=
...</div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Turner Bohl=
en <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:turnerbohlen@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">turnerbohlen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I've been in touch with=
him and he thought it was UA, so no big help there. Thanks, though!</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all"><div>Turner Bohlen<br><div>=
<a href=3D"http://www.turnerbohlen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.turnerbohlen.=
com</a></div>
</div></font></span><div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Leonid =
Grinberg <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:leonidg@mit.edu" target=3D=
"_blank">leonidg@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I do not but I'd email <a href=3D"mailto:jdreed@mit.ed=
u" target=3D"_blank">jdreed@mit.edu</a>. He almost certainly knows. (He wor=
ks for IS&T and worked with me on a bunch of stuff when I was Tech Comm=
ittee chair.)</div>
<div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 1=
1, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Turner Bohlen <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:t=
urnerbohlen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">turnerbohlen@gmail.com</a>></sp=
an> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey all -<div><br></div><di=
v>I'm moving forward to put staplers in all of the athena clusters. As =
of right now, three athena clusters already have staplers, but no one seems=
to know who put them there. If you happen to know how those staplers ended=
up being installed please shoot me an email! Thanks!</div>
<span><font color=3D"#888888">
<div><br><div><div>Turner Bohlen<br><div><a href=3D"http://www.turnerbohlen=
.com" target=3D"_blank">www.turnerbohlen.com</a></div></div>
</div></div></font></span></div>
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