[1391] in UA Exec
Re: Ambulance Confidentiality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Katy Gero)
Tue Sep 25 16:52:19 2012
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:52:16 -0400
From: Katy Gero <kgero@MIT.EDU>
To: Jessica H Lowell <jessiehl@mit.edu>
Cc: Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@mit.edu>, "ua-exec@mit.edu" <ua-exec@mit.edu>
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I would like to note that I am in no way suggesting that we should
broadcast this data and imply that people should not call 100. I am not
here to scaremonger and I always and will continue to encourage people to
call 100 in an emergency situation. However, upon hearing of these things,
I believe that it is an issue the UA should be aware of and discussing.
Katy
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Jessica H Lowell <jessiehl@mit.edu> wrote:
> Wow, this is the first time in several years I've contributed to a UA
> discussion
> (I guess ua-discuss was cced on this?).
>
> When I was in the UA I poked a little bit at the fact that you have to go
> through campus police to get EMTs. That went absolutely nowhere; the idea
> of
> *actual* confidential medical help was a non-starter. I've since learned,
> doing volunteer medical work, that "If you summon emergency medical help
> you
> might also get cops" is also a significant barrier to people getting
> medical
> help in the "real world".
>
> I did not know about the involvement of the Dean on Call, etc (has that
> always
> been the case or is that relatively new?). IMO that is pretty terrible
> and if
> the UA successfully picked it up that would be good for students. A bit of
> crufty anecdata - I brought this issue up on my zephyr class after seeing
> this
> thread, and every single person who responded was horrified at the idea
> that so
> many people could be in the loop on this, and most said that if they'd
> known
> that as undergrads it would have affected their willingness to call 100 in
> an
> emergency situation.
>
> - Jessie
> UA Senator 2004-2005, 2006-2007
> UAVP 2005-2006
>
> Quoting Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@MIT.EDU>:
>
> Don't leave many details on the phone call...
>>
>>
>> From: katystreet@gmail.com [mailto:katystreet@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
>> Katy Gero
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:52 PM
>> To: ua-exec@mit.edu
>> Subject: Ambulance Confidentiality
>>
>> Hello everyone that is on this mailing list,
>>
>> Let me know if this is not the correct mailing list to use for this
>> issue. I recently learned that when you call campus police at 100 all
>> details from that call are reported to the Dean on Call, who is not in any
>> way bound by confidentiality. (The list of people a Dean on Call might tell
>> is quite large, and includes, I think, other Deans on Call, S^3, Dean
>> Humphrey's, Barbara Baker...) So while the EMTs are completely
>> confidential, you can only call the EMTs through campus police. This is
>> pretty upsetting to me, since I have generally been told that calling an
>> ambulance is confidential and is something I tell others to encourage them
>> to call 100 in an emergency situation.
>>
>> I would be pretty upset if S^3 based their decision of what to do with me
>> because of on an incident I was involved with when the EMTs were called.
>>
>> I also recently learned that the Good Samaritan policy only applies to
>> alcohol related incidents. I have similar feelings towards this.
>>
>> I'm not sure if this is an issue the UA wants to pick up, but I would be
>> in support of looking into these policies.
>>
>> Katy Gero
>> Senior Haus President and Former UA Senate Member
>>
>>
>>
>
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I would like to note that I am in no way suggesting that we should broadcas=
t this data and imply that people should not call 100. I am not here to sca=
remonger and I always and will continue to encourage people to call 100 in =
an emergency situation. However, upon hearing of these things, I believe th=
at it is an issue the UA should be aware of and discussing.<br>
<br>Katy<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:40 PM,=
Jessica H Lowell <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jessiehl@mit.edu"=
target=3D"_blank">jessiehl@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
Wow, this is the first time in several years I've contributed to a UA d=
iscussion<br>
(I guess ua-discuss was cced on this?).<br>
<br>
When I was in the UA I poked a little bit at the fact that you have to go<b=
r>
through campus police to get EMTs. =A0That went absolutely nowhere; the ide=
a of<br>
*actual* confidential medical help was a non-starter. =A0I've since lea=
rned,<br>
doing volunteer medical work, that "If you summon emergency medical he=
lp you<br>
might also get cops" is also a significant barrier to people getting m=
edical<br>
help in the "real world".<br>
<br>
I did not know about the involvement of the Dean on Call, etc (has that alw=
ays<br>
been the case or is that relatively new?). =A0IMO that is pretty terrible a=
nd if<br>
the UA successfully picked it up that would be good for students. =A0A bit =
of<br>
crufty anecdata - I brought this issue up on my zephyr class after seeing t=
his<br>
thread, and every single person who responded was horrified at the idea tha=
t so<br>
many people could be in the loop on this, and most said that if they'd =
known<br>
that as undergrads it would have affected their willingness to call 100 in =
an<br>
emergency situation.<br>
<br>
- Jessie<br>
UA Senator 2004-2005, 2006-2007<br>
UAVP 2005-2006<br>
<br>
Quoting Michael E Plasmeier <<a href=3D"mailto:theplaz@MIT.EDU" target=
=3D"_blank">theplaz@MIT.EDU</a>>:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Don't leave many details on the phone call...<div><div class=3D"h5"><br=
>
<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:katystreet@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">katystreet@=
gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:katystreet@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">katystreet@gmail.com</a>] On Behalf Of Katy Gero<br>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:52 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:ua-exec@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">ua-exec@mit.edu</a=
><br>
Subject: Ambulance Confidentiality<br>
<br>
Hello everyone that is on this mailing list,<br>
<br>
Let me know if this is not the correct mailing list to use for this issue. =
I recently learned that when you call campus police at 100 all details from=
that call are reported to the Dean on Call, who is not in any way bound by=
confidentiality. (The list of people a Dean on Call might tell is quite la=
rge, and includes, I think, other Deans on Call, S^3, Dean Humphrey's, =
Barbara Baker...) So while the EMTs are completely confidential, you can on=
ly call the EMTs through campus police. This is pretty upsetting to me, sin=
ce I have generally been told that calling an ambulance is confidential and=
is something I tell others to encourage them to call 100 in an emergency s=
ituation.<br>
<br>
I would be pretty upset if S^3 based their decision of what to do with me b=
ecause of on an incident I was involved with when the EMTs were called.<br>
<br>
I also recently learned that the Good Samaritan policy only applies to alco=
hol related incidents. I have similar feelings towards this.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure if this is an issue the UA wants to pick up, but I would b=
e in support of looking into these policies.<br>
<br>
Katy Gero<br>
Senior Haus President and Former UA Senate Member<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
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