[99907] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Martin Barry)
Mon Oct 8 19:57:44 2007
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:42:53 +1000
From: Martin Barry <marty@supine.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <200710082034.l98KYAUU072771@aurora.sol.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
$quoted_author = "Joe Greco" ;
>
> > >That's approximately correct. The true answer to the thought experiment
> > >is "address those problems, don't continue to blindly pay those costs and
> > >complain about how unique your problems are." Because the problems are
> > >neither unique nor new - merely ingrained. People have solved them
> > >before.
> >
> > "Address those problems" sounds quite a bit like an old Sam Kinnison
> > routine, paraphrased as "move to where the broadband is! You live in
> > a %*^&* expensive place." Sorry, but your statement comes across as
> > arrogant, at least to me.
>
> It's arrogant to fix brokenness? Because I'm certainly there. In my
> experience, if you don't bother to address problems, they're very likely
> to remain, especially when money is involved on the opposite side.
it's arrogant to use throwaway lines like "address those problems" when the
reality is a complex political and corporate stoush over a former government
entity with a monopoly on the local loop.
AU should be at a stage where the next generation network (FTTx, for some
values of x hopefully approaching H) will be built by a new, neutral entity
owned by a consortium of telcos/ISPs with wholesale charges set on a cost
recovery basis. if either political party realises how important this is
for AUs future and stares down telstra in their game of ACCC chicken, that
may even become a reality.
cheers
marty
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but for execution you get minus three.
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