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Re: How Not to Multihome

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Keegan.Holley@sungard.com)
Mon Oct 8 18:27:04 2007

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To: "Wayne E. Bouchard" <web@typo.org>
Cc: nanog <nanog@merit.edu>, owner-nanog@merit.edu
From: Keegan.Holley@sungard.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:17:46 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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The only thing that sounds worse would be to give them address space and=20
tell them to NAT the traffic based on the path it takes.

Keegan Holley
Network Engineer, Network Managed Services
SunGard Availability Services
Mezzanine Level MC-95
401 N. Broad St.
Philadelphia, PA 19108
215.446.1242 (office)
609.670.2149 (cell)
Keegan.Holley@sungard.com
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"Wayne E. Bouchard" <web@typo.org>=20
10/08/2007 05:53 PM

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nanog <nanog@merit.edu>, owner-nanog@merit.edu
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Re: How Not to Multihome






Slightly different approach... Needing to multihome is justification
for requesting an ASN. Is this strictly necessary? No. You can source
the block on his behalf but that creates various routing
inconsistancies. There are other even more unpleasant ways of doing
this that are perfectly feasible. (I'd be willing to use them if I was
the client since I know what I'm doing but I would not be willing to
have a client of mine use them because it would scare the hell out of
me.)

-Wayne

On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 05:43:03PM -0400, Keegan.Holley@sungard.com wrote:
> I have a client that wants us to advertise an IP block assigned by=20
another=20
> ISP.  I know that the best practice is to have them request an AS number =


> from ARIN and peer with us, etc.  However, I cannot find any information =


> that states as law.  Does anyone know of a document or RFC that states=20
> this?
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Keegan
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Wayne Bouchard
web@typo.org
Network Dude
http://www.typo.org/~web/




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be to give them address space and tell them to NAT the traffic based on
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<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Keegan Holley<br>
Network Engineer, Network Managed Services<br>
SunGard Availability Services<br>
Mezzanine Level MC-95<br>
401 N. Broad St.<br>
Philadelphia, PA 19108<br>
215.446.1242 (office)<br>
609.670.2149 (cell)<br>
Keegan.Holley@sungard.com<br>
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<br><tt><font size=3D2>Slightly different approach... Needing to multihome
is justification<br>
for requesting an ASN. Is this strictly necessary? No. You can source<br>
the block on his behalf but that creates various routing<br>
inconsistancies. There are other even more unpleasant ways of doing<br>
this that are perfectly feasible. (I'd be willing to use them if I was<br>
the client since I know what I'm doing but I would not be willing to<br>
have a client of mine use them because it would scare the hell out of<br>
me.)<br>
<br>
-Wayne<br>
<br>
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 05:43:03PM -0400, Keegan.Holley@sungard.com wrote:<=
br>
&gt; I have a client that wants us to advertise an IP block assigned by
another <br>
&gt; ISP. &nbsp;I know that the best practice is to have them request an
AS number <br>
&gt; from ARIN and peer with us, etc. &nbsp;However, I cannot find any
information <br>
&gt; that states as law. &nbsp;Does anyone know of a document or RFC that
states <br>
&gt; this?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Keegan<br>
---<br>
Wayne Bouchard<br>
web@typo.org<br>
Network Dude<br>
http://www.typo.org/~web/<br>
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