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Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Greco)
Sat Oct 6 14:52:28 2007

From: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
To: newton@internode.com.au (Mark Newton)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:16:16 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: andrew@profitability.net, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20071006024603.GB66939@internode.com.au> from "Mark Newton" at Oct 06, 2007 12:16:03 PM
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


> In the Australian ISP's case (which is what started this) it's rather
> worse.
> 
> The local telco monopoly bills between $30 and $50 per month for access
> to the copper tail.
> 
> So there's essentially no such thing as a $19.99/month connection here
> (except for short-lived "flash-in-the-pan" loss-leaders, and we all know
> how they turn out)
> 
> So to run the numbers:  A customer who averages .25Mbit/sec on a tail acquired
> from the incumbent requires --
> 
>    Port/line rental from the telco   ~ $50
>    IP transit                        ~ $ 6 (your number)
>    Transpacific backhaul             ~ $50 (I'm not making this up)

These look like great places for some improvement.

> Like I said a few messages ago, as much as your marketplace derides 
> caps and quotas, I'm pretty sure that most of you would prefer to do 
> business with my constraints than with yours.

That's nice from *your* point of view, as an ISP, but from the end-user's
point of view, it discourages the development and deployment of the next
killer app, which is the point that I've been making.

... JG
-- 
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