[99689] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Creating demand for IPv6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Seth Mattinen)
Tue Oct 2 14:57:24 2007
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:27:35 -0700
From: Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us>
To: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <01d701c8051c$806ed730$433816ac@atlanta.polycom.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>
> Thus spake "William Herrin" <herrin-nanog@dirtside.com>
>> As far as I can tell, IPv6 is at least theoretically capable of
>> offering exactly two things that IPv4 does not offer and can't easily
>> be made to offer:
>>
>> 1. More addresses.
>> 2. Provider independent addresses
>>
>> At the customer level, #1 has been thoroughly mitigated by NAT,
>> eliminating demand. Indeed, the lack of IPv6 NAT creates a
>> negative demand: folks used to NAT don't want to give it up.
>>
>> This community (network operators) has refused to permit #2,
>> even to the extent that its present in IPv4, eliminating that source
>> of demand as well.
>
> If you feel ARIN has not solved the PIv6 issue sufficiently well, please
> take that argument to PPML. As of today, if you qualify for PIv4 space,
> you qualify for PIv6 space automatically -- and you only have to pay the
> fees for one of them.
>
Really? As far as I understood it, I still had to pay $500 for end-user
allocations.
~Seth
