[99685] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Creating demand for IPv6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Tue Oct 2 14:07:28 2007
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: "William Herrin" <herrin-nanog@dirtside.com>,
"Brian Raaen" <braaen@zcorum.com>
Cc: "North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:34:31 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Thus spake "William Herrin" <herrin-nanog@dirtside.com>
> As far as I can tell, IPv6 is at least theoretically capable of
> offering exactly two things that IPv4 does not offer and can't easily
> be made to offer:
>
> 1. More addresses.
> 2. Provider independent addresses
>
> At the customer level, #1 has been thoroughly mitigated by NAT,
> eliminating demand. Indeed, the lack of IPv6 NAT creates a
> negative demand: folks used to NAT don't want to give it up.
>
> This community (network operators) has refused to permit #2,
> even to the extent that its present in IPv4, eliminating that source
> of demand as well.
If you feel ARIN has not solved the PIv6 issue sufficiently well, please
take that argument to PPML. As of today, if you qualify for PIv4 space, you
qualify for PIv6 space automatically -- and you only have to pay the fees
for one of them.
If you're claiming that you have a PIv6 block and ISPs won't route it,
please publicly shame the offending parties here so the rest of us will know
not to give them our money.
S
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