[99632] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Sun Sep 30 09:38:25 2007
In-Reply-To: <46FF79E1.1060604@mrp.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:37:08 -0400
To: Mark Prior <mrp@mrp.net>
From: John Curran <jcurran@mail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
At 7:56 PM +0930 9/30/07, Mark Prior wrote:
>
>It would be nice to see some evidence of some forward motion but I don't
>see any. The vendors seem to point at a lack of demand and the ISPs
>claim a lack of support from the vendors and/or not customer demand.
It's going to get real interesting, since (in general):
1) Customers aren't going to ask for IPv6 (it's not their problem)
2) ISP's may plan a few years out, but don't make capital commitments
until they're absolutely required.
3) It takes most vendors 3 to 6 months to move requirements through
marketing and 1 year plus for engineering and chip design.
Alas, this particular feature set (functional IPv6 and transition tools)
is not just one new protocol feature or option; it's an order of magnitude
more complex and will take ISP's months (or even years) to deploy.
It's amazing that got the need for the new protocol right more than a
decade ago, but seemed to have left all the details to the last minute.
>If the ISPs tried to deploy it for themselves then perhaps this current
>impasse could be broken and the current shortcomings would then have
>some visibility with the vendors and that might encourage the IETF to
>address the real issues.
Agreed.
>A quick look at some of the usual suspects shows not much consumption of
>their own dog food.
>...
><http://www.mrp.net/ISP.html>
Very nice chart!
/John
