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Re: IPv6 Information Wiki

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeroen Massar)
Tue Sep 25 12:12:18 2007

Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:05:31 +0100
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs@seastrom.com>
CC: michael.dillon@bt.com, ppml@arin.net, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <86tzpiviyc.fsf@seastrom.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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[added bcc to ops@arin.net so that they can have a look at it too from
their end etc etc]

Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
>=20
> <michael.dillon@bt.com> writes:
>=20
>> ARIN has set up a wiki at http://www.getipv6.info to publish informati=
on
>> that will help ISPs, large and small in implementing IPv6 and migratin=
g
>> to an IPv6 Internet.
>=20
> The unintentionally funny part of this is that the wiki hangs (the
> redirect to http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/Main_Page from
> http://www.getipv6.info works, but the subsequent page load does not)
> if you try to connect to it using IPv6.  Is this a subtle way of
> saying that I am not the intended audience?

Welcome to the wonderful world of "MTU issues" ;)

$ tracepath6 www.getipv6.info
 1?: [LOCALHOST]                      pmtu 1500
 1:  ge-1-3-0.breda.ipv6.concepts-ict.net     asymm  2   1.320ms
 2:  2001:838:0:10::1                         asymm  3   3.404ms
 3:  ge6-2-0.br0.ams3.nl.gbxs.net             asymm  5   4.666ms
 4:  so-0-0-0.bb1.bru2.be.gbxs.net            asymm  5   8.504ms
 5:  ge-0-3-0.bb1.bru1.be.gbxs.net            asymm  6   8.662ms
 6:  ge-6-0-0-32.bb1.bru2.be.gbxs.net         asymm  8  15.684ms
 7:  2001:7f8:4::cb9:1                        asymm  9  15.809ms
 8:  so-1-0-0.dus11.ip6.tiscali.net            17.379ms
 9:  so-0-0-0.ham10.ip6.tiscali.net            23.015ms
10:  so-0-0-0.ham10.ip6.tiscali.net           asymm  9  22.305ms pmtu 148=
0
10:  sl-bb1v6-bru-t-7.sprintv6.net            asymm  9  38.707ms
11:  sl-bb1v6-rly-t-1001.sprintv6.net         asymm 10 148.863ms
12:  2001:440:1239:7000::2                    asymm 11 155.694ms
13:  no reply
14:  no reply
15:  no reply

Something is nicely filtering out ICMP there and clearly some hop is not
1480 ;) The fun really starts when you have a 1280 pMTU though.

Unfortunately ARIN doesn't have any traceroute6/tracepath6 tool
available online so that one can check the path back, which could show
where it goes wrong, as asymetric routes tend to be a big issue also ;)

I won't even show the other traceroute which has a 400ms+ path and
bounces from between nl -> uk -> us -> jp -> kr -> us -> arin and then
goes dead. IMHO ARIN should also definitely look at getting a good
transit provider, which would also help quite a bit with these kind of
problems.

Greets,
 Jeroen


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