[99451] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Bee attack, fiber cut, 7-hour outage
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Fri Sep 21 22:17:02 2007
Reply-To: <frnkblk@iname.com>
From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: "'Wayne E. Bouchard'" <web@typo.org>,
"Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:01:40 -0500
In-Reply-To: <20070921235930.GA14457@typo.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
There's a difference between folding a ring or pushing out a spoke to feed a
few customers and providing connectivity to a town.
I think building a SONET ring, or any kind of redundancy, has more to do
with a rural telco's commitment to it's customers than the bottom line.
Remember, the building of plant contributes to the cost study, so it may end
up having zero cost in the end.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Wayne E. Bouchard
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:00 PM
To: Justin M. Streiner
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Bee attack, fiber cut, 7-hour outage
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 04:49:22PM -0400, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
> >Anytime you talk about "rural" I'm impressed with 7 hours, however --
> >isn't SONET supposed to make this better?
>
> Sure, if:
> 1. the protect path is configured and enabled
> 2. both the working and protect paths don't run through the same
> conduit/duct/buffer
I am continually amazed at how often this is the case.
I realize that it's expensive to run these lines but when you put your
working and protect in the same cable or different cables in the same
trench (not even a trench a few feet apart, but the same trench and
same innerduct), you have to EXPECT that you're gonna have angry
customers. And yet when telco folks learn that this has occured, they
often fein being as surprised as the customers.
Truely amazing.
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Wayne Bouchard
web@typo.org
Network Dude
http://www.typo.org/~web/
