[98846] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cogent latency / congestion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kevin Oberman)
Mon Aug 20 19:58:34 2007
To: deepak@ai.net
Cc: Rod Beck <Rod.Beck@hiberniaatlantic.com>, eric@spaethco.com,
nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:17:21 EDT."
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:31:56 -0700
From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:17:21 -0400
> From: Deepak Jain <deepak@ai.net>
>
> > If someone sabotages a rail to stop a train and the derailment takes out
> > the fiber that is buried in the right-of-way, is that unintentional
> > sabotage? At least of the fiber?
>
> That's not sabotage at all.
>
> As it relates to the fiber, its not "deliberately and maliciously
> destroying [fiber]"... unless the goal was to cause a derailment which
> hurt the train operator both from the operation of the train and
> subsequent revenues they might lose from fiber operations along the same
> right-of-way -- then *that* would be sabotage.
>
> In the case you outlined above, barring other motivations, the fiber
> would be "collateral damage".
>
> That said, Cogent's page says nothing about sabotage
> (status.cogentco.com) and I can't find the reference on teliasonera's
> page.... Link please?
Too many people missed the emoticon. Clearly the fiber damage in the
case I gave was collateral damage. It would have been sabotage on the
rail line and the derailed train.
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