[98753] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Extreme congestion (was Re: inter-domain link recovery)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexander Harrowell)
Thu Aug 16 20:28:25 2007
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:57:26 +0100
From: "Alexander Harrowell" <a.harrowell@gmail.com>
To: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
Cc: "Sean Donelan" <sean@donelan.com>, nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <46C480FC.4010202@psg.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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On 8/16/07, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, that's why I was limiting the need (requirement) to only 1-few
> > ASN hops upstream. I view this as similar to some backbones offering
> > a special blackhole everything BGP community that usually is not
> > transitive. This is the Oh Crap, Don't Blackhole Everything but Slow
> > Stuff Down BGP community.
>
> and the two hops upstream but not the source router spools the packets
> to the hard drive?
Ideally you'd want to influence the endpoint protocol stack, right? (Which
brings us to the user trust thing.)
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On 8/16/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Randy Bush</b> <<a href="mailto:randy@psg.com">randy@psg.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> Yeah, that's why I was limiting the need (requirement) to only 1-few<br>> ASN hops upstream. I view this as similar to some backbones offering<br>> a special blackhole everything BGP community that usually is not
<br>> transitive. This is the Oh Crap, Don't Blackhole Everything but Slow<br>> Stuff Down BGP community.<br><br>and the two hops upstream but not the source router spools the packets<br>to the hard drive?</blockquote>
<div><br>Ideally you'd want to influence the endpoint protocol stack, right? (Which brings us to the user trust thing.)<br></div><br></div><br>
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