[98745] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Extreme congestion (was Re: inter-domain link recovery)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Donelan)
Thu Aug 16 16:35:46 2007
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:09:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
cc: Alexander Harrowell <a.harrowell@gmail.com>, nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <46C48291.9000300@psg.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Randy Bush wrote:
> Alexander Harrowell wrote:
>>> Yeah, that's why I was limiting the need (requirement) to only 1-few
>>> ASN hops upstream. I view this as similar to some backbones offering
>>> a special blackhole everything BGP community that usually is not
>>> transitive. This is the Oh Crap, Don't Blackhole Everything but Slow
>>> Stuff Down BGP community.
>> and the two hops upstream but not the source router spools the packets
>> to the hard drive?
>> Ideally you'd want to influence the endpoint protocol stack, right?
>
> ECN
>
> sally floyd ain't stoopid
ECN doesn't affect the initial SYN packets.
I agree, sally floyd ain't stoopid.
