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Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Kumari)
Wed Aug 15 13:19:59 2007

In-Reply-To: <20070815144649.GI4820@afilias.info>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:38:44 -0400
To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu



On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:

>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 01:41:17PM -0000, John Levine wrote:
>
>> The real way to get rid of tasting would be to persuade Google and
>> Yahoo/Overture to stop paying for clicks on pages with no content
>> other than ads, but that would be far too reasonable.
>
> Another way would be to eliminate all registrar grace periods, which
> is a significant part of making tasting profitable.  But I don't think
> the registrars would allow such a change.

Or to penalize registrars based upon the number of returns.

Many moons ago I worked for a registrar -- at the time a large number  
of domains were registered using false / stolen credit cards -- this  
led to a large number of charge-backs. The credit card companies  
raised the rates that they charged us and threatened to stop  
servicing us if we didn't fix this -- suddenly a lot more effort was  
dedicated to confirming registrations, card info, etc. and the number  
of charge-backs dropped well below the requirements.

Somewhere earlier in the thread I saw some statistic  that  0.6% of  
domain deleted during the grace period were legitimate (whatever that  
means -- I also saw 5% somewhere else...). If a registrar's continued  
ability to operate was based upon keeping this number low, each  
registrar could make up their own policies to fix this issue -- they  
could create a "restocking fee" or non-refundable processing fee or  
come up with some method to verify the registrant or... If a  
registrar exceeds whatever the threshold is they would start  
incurring additional fees (either for all registrations or just for  
deletions or something) -- under extreme cases their license could be  
yanked.

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understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language  
devised for telling one another when the best fruit is." --Terry  
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