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Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dorn Hetzel)
Mon Aug 13 18:47:17 2007

Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:43:40 -0400
From: "Dorn Hetzel" <dhetzel@gmail.com>
To: "Carl Karsten" <carl@personnelware.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <2ee691ff0708131437y5e244ecdx25412cfcb5a7ab56@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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Or perhaps domains can be on-line instantly for a $100 non-refundable "rush"
fee, or be cheaper and more refundable if you don't mind waiting longer
(long enough to fix the tasting issues)  And yes, I suppose ICANN or similar
would have to collect or mandate the costs for it to affect all areas of the
problem?

On 8/13/07, Dorn Hetzel <dhetzel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, if grandma ordered a sign printed one way, and proofread it, and
> agreed to pay for it, and the printer printed it, then the printer is
> normally going to want money to make another different sign.  If grandma, or
> anyone else, orders a domain, and confirms that's the domain they want, and
> get's it activated, then they should pay at least the first years fee, no
> matter what...
>
> On 8/13/07, Carl Karsten <carl@personnelware.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The real way to get rid of tasting would be to persuade Google and
> > > Yahoo/Overture to stop paying for clicks on pages with no content
> > > other than ads, but that would be far too reasonable.
> >
> > I don't see a practical way to enforce it.
> >
> > I believe the Net is an unstable system that will eventually be rendered
> > useless
> > by spam/etc.  It is a cheap unlimited resource - you pay for your
> > connection,
> > and you get access to things you are in no way paying for.  I don't see
> > a way to
> > fix it.
> >
> > Carl K
> >
>
>

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Or perhaps domains can be on-line instantly for a $100 non-refundable
&quot;rush&quot; fee, or be cheaper and more refundable if you don&#39;t mind waiting
longer (long enough to fix the tasting issues)&nbsp; And yes, I suppose
ICANN or similar would have to collect or mandate the costs for it to
affect all areas of the problem?<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/13/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Dorn Hetzel</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:dhetzel@gmail.com">dhetzel@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Yes, if grandma ordered a sign printed one way, and proofread it, and
agreed to pay for it, and the printer printed it, then the printer is
normally going to want money to make another different sign.&nbsp; If
grandma, or anyone else, orders a domain, and confirms that&#39;s the
domain they want, and get&#39;s it activated, then they should pay at least
the first years fee, no matter what...<div><span class="e" id="q_11461296b4434ea6_1"><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/13/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Carl Karsten</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:carl@personnelware.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
carl@personnelware.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>&gt;<br>&gt; The real way to get rid of tasting would be to persuade Google and<br>&gt; Yahoo/Overture to stop paying for clicks on pages with no content
<br>&gt; other than ads, but that would be far too reasonable.<br><br>I don&#39;t see a practical way to enforce it.<br><br>I believe the Net is an unstable system that will eventually be rendered useless<br>by spam/etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;It is a cheap unlimited resource - you pay for your connection,
<br>and you get access to things you are in no way paying for.&nbsp;&nbsp;I don&#39;t see a way to<br>fix it.<br><br>Carl K<br></blockquote></div><br>
</span></div></blockquote></div><br>

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