[98289] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: An Internet IPv6 Transition Plan
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Dambier)
Tue Jul 31 16:13:32 2007
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:12:28 +0200
From: Peter Dambier <peter@peter-dambier.de>
Reply-To: peter@peter-dambier.de
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <171423de0707301011i922312dtd72490d2ceab82bb@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Scott Francis wrote:
> On 7/29/07, Peter Dambier <peter@peter-dambier.de> wrote:
>
>
>>Ways have been found to drill holes into NAT-routers and firewalls,
>>but they are working only as long as it is only you who wants to break
>>out of the NAT. As soon as the mainstream has only left rfc 1918 addresses
>>p2p will stop.
>
>
> really?
>
> http://samy.pl/chownat/
>
> NAT stops nothing. The concept in the above script (which has been
> around for several years) would be trivial for any P2P software to
> implement if it detects it is behind a NAT; in fact, this method may
> well be in use already.
I have read that is what skype is doing and probably some troyans.
Still you have to "talk" to your NAT-router and the other party has
to talk to their NAT-router to make those two NAT-routers talk to
each other. When those two router cannot see each other because
they too are living behind NAT then you have got a problem.
I guess you can solve it but the number of ports is limited and
things get a lot trickier. When you try to get out of the big NAT
(china) then the number of available ports versus the number of
users who want to get out - is the limit.
Kind regards
Peter and Karin
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