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Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Jul 23 14:05:07 2007

To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:39:35 EDT."
             <Pine.GSO.4.64.0707231134020.21768@clifden.donelan.com>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:52:33 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:39:35 EDT, Sean Donelan said:
> messages.  The irc.foonet.com server clearly sends several cleaning 
> commands used by several well-known, and very old, Bots.

Old and well-known bots.  Remember that for a moment, and think "6 month old
antivirus signatures" for a bit....

> service (can't look for help)?  Or should the ISP only disrupt the minimum 
> number of services needed to clean the Bot?

Is there any indication that the commands actually pushed have a *significant*
chance of actually wiping any resident bots, or is it "That's an old worn-out
magic word" time?  It's one thing if 95% of the time, hijacking the connection
and pushing command strings actually cleans a bot up.  It's another thing
entirely if it only works 5 or 10% of the time because most of the bots
currently out there are no longer susceptible to that cleaning method.


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