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Re: Yahoo outage summary

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Jul 9 10:48:45 2007

To: "Chris L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com>
Cc: "Marcus H. Sachs" <marc@sachsfamily.net>,
	"'Nanog'" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:18:25 -0000."
             <Pine.GSO.4.58.0707090212130.1179@marvin.argfrp.us.uu.net>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:47:42 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:18:25 -0000, "Chris L. Morrow" said:

> While S*BGP seem like they may offer additional protections and additional
> knobs to be used for protecting 'us' from 'them', the very basics are
> obviously not being done so added complexity is not going to really help
> :( Or, perhaps its not that its not going to help its just not going to
> get done because even prefix-lists are 'too hard', apparently.

"Wow, prefix-lists are *hard*" -- BGP Barbie..

You'd think that by now, we as an industry could do better than that.

(Yes, I know the jury is still out on what really happened at L3-Hanaro.
Doesn't change the fact that we collectively shoot ourselves in the foot
because providers will believe the most implausible things from their
neighbors, like announcements for 128/1 ;)

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