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Re: Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Jun 4 17:14:46 2007

To: Jim Shankland <nanog@shankland.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:20:38 PDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:24:50 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:20:38 PDT, Jim Shankland said:

> I can't pass over Valdis's statement that a "good properly configured
> stateful firewall should be doing [this] already" without noting
> that on today's Internet, the gap between "should" and "is" is
> often large.

Let's not forget all the NAT boxes out there that are *perfectly* willing
to let a system make an *outbound* connection.  So the user makes a first
outbound connection to visit a web page, gets exploited, and the exploit
then phones home to download more malware.

Yeah, that NAT *should* be providing security, but as you point out, there's
that big gap between should and is... :)

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