[96557] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Mon May 14 03:58:25 2007
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 02:57:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0705132340140.15387@clifden.donelan.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2007, Gadi Evron wrote:
> > "Passing the buck! Buck passer!" (see below - skip to Dilbert link)
>
> I guess you missed my attempts 3 or 4 years ago at trying to establish
> some standards for CPE concerning security. I've been at this party for
> a long time, I know how the song ends.
>
> > Not saying that you are wrong but... Ahh, these are out of our
> > control, nor will they do anything if we don't. Might as well tell users
> > not to patch their Windows systems as it's the responsibility of the store
> > who sold them the computer. Yes, it could help if the stores did
> > something.
>
> I spent about a year of my life working with Microsoft on getting patched
> versions of Windows in the pipeline and getting OEMs to regularly update
> their manufacturing copy being pre-installed on machines as they leave
> the factory. So yes, it did help to improve things in the pipeline.
>
Just a joke, Sean.
What would you consider from your experience, the best way to make these
third parties take responsibility?
