[96512] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fergie)
Sat May 12 04:37:48 2007
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:35:41 GMT
To: ops.lists@gmail.com
Cc: from_nanog@corenap.com, ge@linuxbox.org, nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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- -- "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 5/12/07, Albert Meyer <from_nanog@corenap.com> wrote:
>
>> I and numerous others (including some whom any reasonable NANOG-L pos=
ter
>> would respect and listen to) have asked you repeatedly to stop trolli=
ng
>> NANOG-L with this botnet crap. It is off-topic here. The last time yo=
u
>> pulled this (starting =
>
>As frequent as Gadi is with his botnet posts, insecure and wide open
>CPE getting deployed across a large provider is definitely
>operational.
Suresh is right -- if you don't think CPE compromises are an
operational problem, then I'm not sure what is. :-)
[changing gears]
I'll even go a step further, and say that if ISPs keep punting
on the whole botnet issue, and continue to think of themselves
as 'common carriers' in some sense -- and continue to disengage
on the issue -- then you may eventually forced to address those
issues at some point in the not-so-distant future.
I understand the financial disincentives, etc., but if the problem
continues to grow and fester, and consumer (and financial institutions)
losses grow larger, things may take a really ugly turn.
$.02,
- - ferg
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