[96449] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: ISP CALEA compliance

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Thu May 10 19:15:38 2007

From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: "Donald Stahl" <don@calis.blacksun.org>
Cc: "North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:53:26 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Thus spake "Donald Stahl" <don@calis.blacksun.org>
> Working hard to defend privacy does not automatically equal
> protecting people who exploit children- and I'm getting sick and
> tired of people screaming "Think of the children!" It's a stupid,
> fear mongering tactic- and hopefully one day people will think
> of it in the same way as crying wolf.

Ditto; I'm sick of all the programs that are pushed with that justification. 
People are all too happy to give up their privacy to "protect" kids, rather 
than just doing a decent job of parenting themselves.

> If you don't have anything to hide- then why should you care right?
>
> On the other hand- these sorts of laws may just be enough to
> push everyone to use encryption- and then what will LE do?

Arrest everyone!  Have you forgotten the court ruling a year or two ago that 
using PGP was evidence of covering up a crime?

S

Stephen Sprunk      "Those people who think they know everything
CCIE #3723         are a great annoyance to those of us who do."
K5SSS                                             --Isaac Asimov 



home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post