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Re: uDNS Root Name Servers Taking Shape - on a couple ISDN lines

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Thu May 29 19:22:07 1997

Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 18:03:13 -0500
From: Karl Denninger  <karl@mcs.net>
To: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@unety.net>
Cc: "'newdom@ar.com'" <newdom@ar.com>, "'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>,
        edns-discuss@mcs.net
In-Reply-To: <01BC6C56.42B9EE80@webster.unety.net>; from Jim Fleming on Thu, May 29, 1997 at 05:32:18PM -0500

> [1] =========================================
> ; <<>> DiG 2.1 <<>> @208.195.108.8 . any 
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 4, Auth: 3, Addit: 3
> ;; QUESTIONS:
> ;;	., type = ANY, class = IN
> 
> ;; ANSWERS:
> .	172800	SOA	root.starfire.douglas.ma.us. hostmaster.starfire.douglas.ma.us. (
> 			1997052900	; serial
> 			43200	; refresh (12 hours)
> 			900	; retry (15 mins)
> 			604800	; expire (7 days)
> 			172800 )	; minimum (2 days)
> .	518400	NS	root.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
> .	518400	NS	hp.manhattan.com.
> .	518400	NS	DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET.
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
> .	518400	NS	root.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
> .	518400	NS	hp.manhattan.com.
> .	518400	NS	DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET.
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
> root.starfire.douglas.ma.us.	86400	A	208.195.108.8

Multi-homed condition unknown and suspect due to truncated BGP path.
Approximate bandwidth from the core to this point on the network 
from us at this point in time: 34.56kbps, or a good modem line :-)

 hop       packets   min rtt BW
(ttl)     in    out   (mS)  k bps   Address
 MTU=8166  MTU=4352  MTU=2002  MTU=1492 TT
= 10      9     13  53.55 =  34.56 208.195.108.8 root.starfire.douglas.ma.us

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.


> hp.manhattan.com.	172800	A	199.103.194.137

Aggregated by (and complete path from) Open Advisors.  Appears to be
multi-homed.

Approximate bandwidth to this point on the network: 65.28kbps, or a 
					single-channel ISDN equivalent.
 hop       packets   min rtt BW
(ttl)     in    out   (mS)  k bps   Address
= 15     17     18 318.58 =  65.28 199.103.194.137 

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.


> DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET.	172800	A	204.94.43.1

Alternic under a different name, operated by Diane Boling, and running
with both nameservers on the same subnet.  Linked to Seanet, which appears 
to be multihomed.

Approximate bandwidth to this point on the network:  629kbps (my god, they
have one root with a  fractional T1 worth of bandwidth available!)

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS ALSO RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.


I rest my case.  Only one of these has anything approaching reasonable 
connectivity, all appear to be off single-point failure circuits (except
possibly manhattan.com), and all are running in non-RFC2010 mode.

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