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Re: www.cnn.com

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeroen Massar)
Thu Apr 26 07:01:18 2007

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:56:16 +0100
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: Stefan Schmidt <s.schmidt--nanog@mcbone.net>,
	Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>,
	North American Network Operators Group <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20070426103232.GN17505@giscard.mcbone.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 10:06:32AM +0100, Randy Bush wrote:
>> roam.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> doc -p -w www.cnn.com.
>> Doc-2.2.3: doc -p -w www.cnn.com.
>> Doc-2.2.3: Starting test of www.cnn.com.   parent is cnn.com.
>> Doc-2.2.3: Test date - Thu Apr 26 09:04:52 GMT 2007
>> DIGERR (NOT_AUTHORIZED): dig @dmtns01.turner.com. for SOA of www.cnn.c=
om. failed
>> DIGERR (NOT_AUTHORIZED): dig @dmtns02.turner.com. for SOA of www.cnn.c=
om. failed
>=20
> I think your debugging tool is faulty, as a dig ns cnn.com
[..]

> All of the above answer to me and have the same serial for cnn.com.

Randy is looking at www.cnn.com (note the www portion) and if you would
do a 'dig +trace www.cnn.com' you would see:

www.cnn.com.            3600    IN      NS      dmtns01.turner.com.
www.cnn.com.            3600    IN      NS      dmtns02.turner.com.
;; Received 112 bytes from 207.200.73.85#53(twdns-03.ns.aol.com) in 176 m=
s

www.cnn.com.            600     IN      A       64.236.16.20
[..9 ip's..]
;; Received 157 bytes from 64.236.22.150#53(dmtns02.turner.com) in 100 ms=


And dmtns0{1|2}.turner.com. don't have a SOA for www.cnn.com although
they are authoritive. They only respond to queries for "A". Fortunatily
they do respond for "AAAA" queries, 0 records result, but it doesn't
break. They do simply drop queries asking for SOA,MX,TXT and prolly other=
s.

Aka just another peeped up "DNS loadbalancer" for which the implementers
didn't read the RFCs or where the configurators decided that they can
ignore other stuff for "anti-ddos" or other reasons.

Greets,
 Jeroen



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