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RE: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Tue Apr 10 08:46:40 2007

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From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 07:44:59 -0500
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Comcast is known to emit lots of abuse -- are you blocking all their
networks today?

Frank 

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Bulk 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:43 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks


On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 09:50:34PM +0000, Fergie wrote:
> I would have to respectfully disagree with you. When network
> operators do due diligence and SWIP their sub-allocations, they
> (the sub-allocations) should be authoritative in regards to things
> like RBLs.

After thinking it over: I partly-to-mostly agree.  In principal, yes.
In practice, however, [some] negligent network operators have built
such long and pervasive track records of large-scale abuse that their
allocations can be classified into two categories:

	1. Those that have emitted lots of abuse.
	2. Those that are going to emit lots of abuse.

In such cases, I'm not inclined to wait for (2) to become reality.

---Rsk




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