[95678] in North American Network Operators' Group
redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Sun Apr 1 23:00:03 2007
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 21:51:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <g3hcrzn0w4.fsf@sa.vix.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On 1 Apr 2007, Paul Vixie wrote:
>
> > We're looking at the alligators surrounding us. Gadi is trying to
> > convince us to help him in draining the swamp (which may indeed be a
> > positive thing in the long run).
> >
> > Does that sound about right?
>
> that sounds exactly wrong. harkening back to my experience with "check-names"
> i can tell you that all i did was scare away a few alligators and the swamp
> remained. (probably the same was true of the original MAPS RBL.) what we've
> got in the DNS registry/registrar market today is as corrupt and abusable as
> the California electricity market was back in 2000-2001, and we're seeing the
> same kind of windfalls enjoyed by the same kind of assholes now as then. the
> system is ripe for policing, which icann has shown that they will not do. i
> want to see gadi in "ralph nader" mode, shining a light on all this, making it
> harder to profit from building the "infrastructure of evil." if that's what
> you meant by swamp-draining, then i apologize for misunderstanding you.
So, is the infrastructure in question which is an abuse infrastructure,
the ICANN policy and registry/registrars combination on TLD management and
domain registration/revokation?
I can testify as to some registrars (enom, godaddy, tucows, etc.) being
very responsive and some registries (read .info) being very
cooperative.
OBVIOUSLY this is not the case for everyone.
I can testify as to ICANN folks being clued-in and helpful as far as they
can under current policies which make ICANN itself being very much
non-existent when it comes to security and abuse.
Gadi.
> --
> Paul Vixie
>
