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Re: Ethernet won (was: RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband...)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@karoshi.com)
Wed Mar 14 13:42:14 2007

Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:38:43 +0000
From: bmanning@karoshi.com
To: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Cc: bmanning@karoshi.com,
	North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <010e01c76654$e22acbd0$493816ac@atlanta.polycom.com>
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:50:19AM -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> Thus spake <bmanning@karoshi.com>
> >perhaps not.  but there is a real issue w/ the number
> >of businesses that operate from the home (according to
> >some numbers this is as high as 65% of all US business)
> >and the telcos still retain a mindset of business areas
> >and residential areas.  It is not possible to get some
> >"business services" deployed in a "residential" area.
> ...
> >persuading a telco, one home-based business at a time,
> >that regardless of the zoning - there are really 65% of
> >those apartments running businesses and want business-class
> >services is an exercise in futility.
> 
> It depends what "business" services you mean.  If you want a T1 or SONET 
> pipe, yeah, you're going to hit a serious wall even if the fiber runs 
> through your property.
> 
> However, most telcos have "business" DSL and "residential" DSL, and the 
> physical layer is the same (ditto for cable, all the way back to @Home vs 
> @Work).  The only differences are the AUP, the price tag, and the ability 
> to get static IPs.  Expect to pay 2-3x for the same bit rate; higher 
> bitrates may be available with "business" service, but the upload rates 
> still suck because their gear is designed for consumers.  Sticking with 
> "residential" service for your home office will pay for basic server colo 
> space somewhere else, and you'll get more for your money.
> 
> S
> 
> Stephen Sprunk      "Those people who think they know everything
> CCIE #3723         are a great annoyance to those of us who do."
> K5SSS                                             --Isaac Asimov 
> 

	dark/dim glass - don't want SONET, too expensive.  want
	1g - 10G to the meet-me.  I should move to Stockholm, Tokyo,
	Seoul, or some other enlightened place that sees that type 
	of service in a viable business model.  No bundling please.

--bill

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